The Wilding Way

[taffyjoe]

It's pretty good. With some one of the best tacticas on any of the forums (Skillit's take on Kromac) and some very useful infomation.

It's not finished though. As it currently stands (ignoring the upcoming book) we are missing EBaldur and Grayle.

The Feral, Stalker (!), Megalith, Ghetorix and the winter Argus and Scarsfell Griffon (although these last two haven't been released yet so can obviously wait)

Reeves (yes, seriously - none of the Reeves suck and this is one of the 1000 ways they could be made better threads really counts as a tactica).

White Mane, Reeve Hunter, War Wolf, Gallows Grove and the Celestial Fulcrum. A whole bunch of Minions, many of which turn up in a lot of circle lists - swamp gobbers, slaughterhausers, gatormen, totem hunter etc.

So, can we have some volunteers? I know they are time consuming, but over the next couple of months, with a bit of effort we could fill this up.

I will take on the totem hunter, and some of the beasts. I can also do the reeve hunter and war wolf (I've just handed in my thesis so I have some free time). But I have no experience of the fulcrum, or EBaldur and am a little weak on the White Mane and Reeves.

[Lamoron]

The entire thing could use some work to be honest. I've only just begun with Circle and I'm getting beaten so badly that there's no way I'm qualified to write anything at this point, but I did make the archives at the Cryx forum: Here. I think this forum could use some more in-depth articles because most of the things we have are very short and somewhat superficial. Circle is probably the hardest faction in the game to play, so why are our articles the shortest

[Forums lol]

I think you lost some of your audience qualified to give tactical instruction at 'Reeves don't suck '.

But seriously, a good idea! If I get my internet back up I might even join in, although it's hard to be anything but brief from my phone.

[cryocube]

I will try to get a half way decent article put together on Baldur2. I play him fairly often with Circle.

[Buddhanutz]

An article about Baldur2 would be great. I don't quite like/understand him. If I was not knee deep in dissertation work, I would enjoy putting togeather an article or two.

[taffyjoe]

I think you lost some of your audience qualified to give tactical instruction at 'Reeves don't suck '.

But seriously, a good idea! If I get my internet back up I might even join in, although it's hard to be anything but brief from my phone.

Ha, I never said reevs don't suck. Just that most of the threads on them are about ideas on how the rules could be re-written to make them not suck. What we need is something on how to get the best out of them, even if the returns are going to be rather limited.

I have something on the totem hunter nearly finished.

[Mattho2k3]

I haven't had time to play in almost a month and aren't comfortable enough with eBaldur or Grayle to do a write up. I know when I was playing eBaldur I was one of the first, or at vocally, to praise Warpwolves with him. It might be a while until one is done for these as some top players are probably getting ready for Gencon.

[PG_LEJKaya]

I did a reeves thread which was acknowledging their shortcomings but started a bit of a discussion at least.

I have played a lot of eBaldur but I think Grayle just doesn't need anything said, he plays exactly as you'd think and nothing hugely surprising comes out of his playstyle. Also when you bring it right back to basics, Grayle plays exacly the same game as Kaya2 and Kromac.

[Mattho2k3]

I think part of the problem with the "it plays how you'd think it plays" phrase is that it may be obvious to the more experienced players who have the knowledge of the game and can look at a card and find synergies with her models but that doesn't work with newer players to Warmachine/Hordes or even the faction. I know I myself look at something like a WhiteMane and see the synergy we can give it and how he plays and may think its obvious on how to get him to work. Others may not be as experienced and knowledgeable and need that simple thread to help them.

[PG_LEJKaya]

Oh I agree totally, Grayle could do with a guide. I mean it plays how you think is why its not been done. Nobody has written it because nothing needs be added to the very basics and writing up the basics isn't as useful (Or as fun) as writing a new idea nobody else has thought of.

[PG_fildrigar]

I did a reeves thread which was acknowledging their shortcomings but started a bit of a discussion at least.

I have played a lot of eBaldur but I think Grayle just doesn't need anything said, he plays exactly as you'd think and nothing hugely surprising comes out of his playstyle. Also when you bring it right back to basics, Grayle plays exacly the same game as Kaya2 and Kromac.

That is exactly the kind of thread that you should PM me to add to the Wilding Way. I managed to totally miss that one. It is now in the Wilding Way.

[PG_LEJKaya]

I don't like to PM you with my own threads, I always feel if they are worth inclusion someone else will.

[PG_fildrigar]

I understand. I'm usually pretty good at scooping up the good threads, but sometimes I miss them.

[taffyjoe]

I did a reeves thread which was acknowledging their shortcomings but started a bit of a discussion at least.

Hmm, I manadged to miss that thread. I'll do a bit of a more through trawl of the search function just to check that some of the holes have already been plugged.

[PG_fildrigar]

As far as Minions go, it might be best to combine all our good options into one thread. Swamp Gobbers are a fantastic unit for us, but I don't know that they warrant a full Tactica article by themselves.

[PG_LEJKaya]

There has definitely been discussion on minions, I'm not sure if there was a whole thread. Its out of date if there was, as the Witchdoctor is now the baddest dude on the planet.

[PG_fildrigar]

The Witchdoctor might deserve an entire thread devoted to him. Heck, I might even bake him a cake when he finally gets released.

[Asdrubael]

A lot of what you listed doesn't need a tactica. For example, Gallows Groves - use them to arc. Sometimes they can get close enough to deny tough. If you need more than that explained, you're an idiot.

That said, I have played a ton of Grayle and could come up with a nice tactica for him.

[Spartan31337]

A lot of what you listed doesn't need a tactica. For example, Gallows Groves - use them to arc. Sometimes they can get close enough to deny tough. If you need more than that explained, you're an idiot.

to chime in, a tactica needn't be limited to "this is what a model does"; rather, it should give advice on how to most effectively use the model. for gallows groves, i can read the card and see "i use this to arc, and it can remove tough/healing". however, what it doesn't tell me is "how many should i take and with what casters make the most use out of it?" or "how survivable is it and what matchups should i try to avoid or is it really strong with or it will need protection with". if i am a totally new player (and with circle that isn't that far off, just started it several months ago), these are questions that i would want to know, firstly because i don't have a lot of experience with it, and secondly (and most importantly) is it a model that will go with only one caster, or can i use it with many? if my favorite caster is X, but it doesn't work with X or X doesn't really need it, i would be pissed if i bought it (and yes, i did buy gallows groves, they are great and everyone should have at least 2!).

I think part of the problem with the "it plays how you'd think it plays" phrase is that it may be obvious to the more experienced players who have the knowledge of the game and can look at a card and find synergies with her models but that doesn't work with newer players to Warmachine/Hordes or even the faction. I know I myself look at something like a WhiteMane and see the synergy we can give it and how he plays and may think its obvious on how to get him to work. Others may not be as experienced and knowledgeable and need that simple thread to help them.

this pretty much sums it up for me. when i first started circle, everyone was raving about the stalker (with good reason), and yet when i looked in the wilding way there was no tactica. my first reaction was 'how good could it be?".

a lot of "tacticas (tactica's? tactii? tacticae?)" that i've seen in other threads are "here's what the card says" and then a deeper explanation of what the card says, which i think is LEJKaya's point about Grayle; there really isn't much beyond the card; however, we could explore synergies (at 35 points, should i take Moraig, or LOTF? both? neither?), what beast combinations are good, etc, some neat tricks, good starting builds to use the models in (like for casters, you could have a "starter army" that would give a good way to see what the caster can do before trying out your own stuff).

that being said, i don't feel near qualified enough to do any of it!

[cryocube]

While PG_LEJKaya beat me to it, this was completely written just hadn't finished formatting so posted it anyway.

http://privateerpressforums.com/show...-the-Stonesoul

[J. Beatnik]

As a new player, I started in Cygnar, and I was super spoiled by the articles written on them. I've gotten into Circle and Blindwater lately, so give me about 6 months of playing every week and I'll give you some advice. :P I've only started in April, so I've got some time to get more games under my belt.