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    Default PP and GW paint types

    Anyone knows what PP and GW paint types are? Arcrylic? Oil-based? Others?

    I'm asking this because I do want to find for substitute paints... sprays in particular for ease of painting.
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    Both GW an P3 are water based acrylics...

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    Is it advisable to buy non-hobby paints?

    In my area, hobby paints are tough to get (especially sprays); especially the main ones like GW, PP, Vallejo, etc. I do intend to go to hardware stores to find for "water-based arcrylic" sprays for ease of painting.

    Any brands you guys recommend?
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    There are dozens of topics on this. The summary is this:

    A lot of people believe that you should use a brand of paint made for models (Vallejo, Citadel, P3, etc.). I am in this camp too. Most (all?) top painters are in this camp.

    Others believe that cheap $1 bottles of paint from craft stores work just as well as expencive formulated paint.

    Neither group will ever persuade the other group that they are right.



    I suggest you go find one of these threads, read it, and then make your own mind up.

    I'd attempt to convince you that the "modeling brands" are worth it, but I've done this dance enough times to know we'll just end up with history repeating and a big "us vs. them" debate on the go. Go look at the last time this came up

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    By sprays do you mean like spray can stuff, or paint for airbrushes? If you're just talking primer, go with Duplicolor Sandable primer, available at just about any auto parts store.

    Craft paints are probably fine for basecoating, but they don't thin as well, so they're not ideal for more advanced techniques.

    You could also try artist acrylics, although they tend to need a LOT of thinning before they're really suitable for mini painting. I know at least one "artist" paint company has a line of "Fluid Acrylics" that are similar to the hobby paints. I've heard of some pro mini painters using them, but my understanding is they don't have the same coverage as hobby brands, making them better for washes, layering, and such, but not so much for painting white over black primer for instance.

    So you could probably hit up your local craft store and get some hobby paints and some fluid acrylics and be all set.

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    Are you planning on painting models or terrain? For terrain just use any bargain priced acrylic paint you can find.
    For the minis I use a combination of artist paints in the tube and Vailejo for my metallics.
    Art paint does indeed have to be seriously thinned but if you can learn to mix your own colors, they are the best value money wise. Properly cared for the tubes last a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyzahn View Post
    By sprays do you mean like spray can stuff, or paint for airbrushes? If you're just talking primer, go with Duplicolor Sandable primer, available at just about any auto parts store.

    Craft paints are probably fine for basecoating, but they don't thin as well, so they're not ideal for more advanced techniques.

    You could also try artist acrylics, although they tend to need a LOT of thinning before they're really suitable for mini painting. I know at least one "artist" paint company has a line of "Fluid Acrylics" that are similar to the hobby paints. I've heard of some pro mini painters using them, but my understanding is they don't have the same coverage as hobby brands, making them better for washes, layering, and such, but not so much for painting white over black primer for instance.



    So you could probably hit up your local craft store and get some hobby paints and some fluid acrylics and be all set.
    I have to admit, you definitely have the best argument on what to use craft paints for. I personally use black and thin it down pretty well, but for other colors, I'd pretty much have to agree with you. I primarily use P3 or RMS, but I'll use craft paints for basing and metallics (I really dig some of the craft metallics), but beyond that, I'll have to agree with you.

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