As books like Legends and Apotheosis are in there, I would say: Yes, Mk I fluff is included ;-)
As books like Legends and Apotheosis are in there, I would say: Yes, Mk I fluff is included ;-)
The Lock & Load Exclusive, "Mind Over Matter" isn't here yet, but it's also not generally available yet electronically.
Where will Mind over Matter fit in? Any ideas?
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Well, if there's a point in the chronology where the average Cygnaran soldier might know what the Cephalyx are, or would have seen drudges, then it predates that. Similarly, since Carlisle has handled burn trauma following Protectorate attacks, and since a couple of the trenchers in the story have seen, or at least heard of mechanithralls and doom reavers, the story must necessarily come at least a year or so into the war. I don't recall any mention of hostilities against the Trollkin or the Skorne, so this may come before the inciting Hordes Primal incidents in 606AR.
These mean little, however, since a Cephalyx force book is coming, and the fluff in that book may clarify things a bit. It's possible that some of the Cephalyx technology described in Mind Over Matter was developed rather late in the Cephalyx timeline, narrowing things down for us. Or maybe (and I would SO LOVE IT if this were the case) the events in "Mind Over Matter" will be referenced in some way in the fluff, and we'll get that date nailed right to the ground.
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Maybe this would be the place to ask which of those stories contain Zerkova fluff?
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You have "Night of the Necrotech" way out of place, it should be not to far after "Moving Targets". You have it after "Through the Darkness" which takes place way later then "Night of the Necrotech"
Where would "Forces of Warmachine: Cephalyx" fit into this?
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Does the RPG take place at a specific point in the timeline?
Is the beginning of the list the best place to start? Sounds like a dumb question but I'm wondering if perhaps I should read the entire RPG rule book first instead.
Also the original post needs to be updated to include some stories that have released since March.
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The RPG was set essentially at the outset of Mk II for WARMACHINE and HORDES, more or less just after WARMACHINE: Legends and HORDES: Metamorphosis. This is a somewhat loose designation since we do try to present things in more general terms in most aspects of the RPG, but fixing a point in time was necessary for certain places which would otherwise have been described differently. For example, in the RPG the Thornwood has been lost to Khador and Northguard has fallen, with Cygnar's border being pushed back to the Dragon's Tongue River. But in the "present" of the RPG the cease fire between Khador and Cygnar has not yet been broken.
I'd respectfully have to disagree that Mk 1 background isn't exciting, although preferences will of course vary. I think there is some excellent fiction in Mk 1, but I am admittedly biased.
There are many potential starting places, but the Iron Kingdoms Full Metal Fantasy RPG Core Rules book is a good place to get an overview of the setting and a general feel for the world. It has a detailed history overview as well as a section "Life in the Iron Kingdoms" which is intended to give a sense of what life in our world is like on a day to day basis. Where you might want to start with the fiction is up to you. Much depends on whether you're looking for descriptions of the world or are interested in following the stories of many of the iconic WARMACHINE and HORDES characters.
Thinking on it now I should amend what I mean to very early Mk. I stories. The Temple Garrodh arc for instance is a huge part of the story especially with how Mk. 2 makes reference to it, but it isn't actually presented as a full story. That was a huge disappointment for me coming in from reading Mk. 2 books. The battle where Voyle was taken down, and the battle against Pyromalfic lived up to what I was hoping it would be.
I also liked how one of the books(Superiority I think?) had a focus on the infantry of the faction rather than the major characters in the faction sections.
Are there any plans to make the Temple Garrodh story arc into a novel? I think it would be really cool to have a complete telling of that. :3
Kind of proud to say I have collected about 95% of these, and have made pdf's of just the fluff. All I am missing is: Rites of Passage, Scars of Caen, Murder in Corvis, IK Excursions, Called to Battle 2009, Night of the Necrotech, Into the Storm, Called to Battle, Vol. 1, Called to Arms 2008, Called to Arms 2007, Mutagenesis. Hell of a read, so far.
So, is there any way to get an 'anthology' of sorts? Like the first third of the fluff, all the books etc, leading up to a certain point.. Released in one big book/pdf? Id love to be able to sit and read from the begining(First fluff piece)... like all of the NQ fluff, the rulebooks, the forces.. the novels.. etc...
Heck, PP.. do a kickstarter for it and ill be the first backer lol
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Can we get an update?
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So which of these stories has Magnus in them? Just in case I missed any.
Is there any fluff collection that anyone has done. I'll pay for that.
Far as I'm aware, fans have been asking for a collected fiction anthology for years but...
The digital app goes some ways to fixing it as it contains all the NQ but it's still missing some stuff like the classic RPG books (I'd love to read the Witchfire Trilogy) and things like the Pirates of the Broken Coast book. Also, Prime, Primal and the remix books are missing from the digital app.
I Could torrent these but PP, I wanna give you money instead!
i really hope we'll see all the stuff mentioned above hitting the app at least at some point in the future because though it would be great to sit down and read the fluff from back to front, it's impossible unless you wanna seek out rare books on Amazon/EBay or go down less legal routes.
Come on PP, please. I wanna read this stuff.
So I think I know what this thread is missing: Plot Threads. Want to read Wrath of the Dragonfather? These books/pieces of fiction are must reads. Want to follow the Leto/Vitner/Julius storyline? Haley/Denegra? Savio? These are your must reads. Etc, etc.
I know, I know...it's a lot of work. But I imagine it would help a lot of people out to focus on the parts of the story they REALLY want to know more about first.
I assue that Wrath of the Dragonfather is last with Blood of the King. However does Wyrmbane, Face Value and Worthy Vessel fit with Wrath of the Dragonfather?
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Wyrmbane is set in 584 AR, which is very early in the Scharde Invasions. The current year after the release of the new edition is 611 AR, and it was 609 AR at the end of the Mk II narratives. This means Wyrmbane is set 3 years before "The King's Own" which is also set during the Scharde Invasions (much later in these wars, when Cygnar is starting to go on the offensive). I can't quite recall the time frame of "Face Value" and it might not matter too much in terms of the overall narrative as its events are very specific to Venethrax's skarlock. I have a hazy sense that this probably took place before Wyrmbane rather than after it, but I'm not sure if that's based on anything.
Worth noting not every story is fixed at a specific date, and that can make it a little tricky to slot into the chronology. This also applies to "Worthy Vessel," which takes place at an earlier juncture in Wrathe's life, just when he starts on the path to transform into what he is like now. It's been a little bit since I read through the story so it's possible there are cues I've forgotten but in looking through some of my notes for the author I believe we decided it was going to be set somewhere around 583 AR, so shortly before the Scharde Invasions. This would mean it takes place a year before Wyrmbane.
Can we update this with the new fiction?
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PP needs to make some sort of compendium where they either collect the whole story or edit it into a novel series.
A lot of people have been asking for this, so I'm in the process of doing it.
I've collected (at a large cost) all the books that are in this list. I am currently compiling all the stories from the books in a pdf. So far, I am 500 pages in (not even close to done, lol)
I don't know how to get it to you all, but if there are ways that would be legal, let's do it!!
Can someone point me to the fluff for the Called to Arms events?
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I'm still trying to figure out what order to read stories in, and I haven't finished Mark of Caine because I want to learn more about the Cygnar Civil war and how Caine ended up were he is in the beginning of the book.
I also want to read about the fall of Llael and all that too, but I heard that happens in one of the older MK I books or something.
I also agree with everyone else in wishing there was a giant anthology I could buy to read all of the stories, and I will hold out hope that PP does eventually do this.