Shatter Storm , need an example

[Imperial]

Shatter Storm
When target friendly Faction model/unit directly hits and boxes an enemy model with a ranged or melee attack, center a 3˝ AOE
on the boxed model, then remove that model from play. Models in the AOE are hit and suffer an unboostable POW 8 blast
damage roll.

Could some-one give me an example how this works,I don't really get the directly hit and boxes parts. Thnx

[thecsharian]

Could some-one give me an example how this works,I don't really get the directly hit and boxes parts. Thnx

Directly hit means you target them directly with the attack and hit them.
-i.e. a if you shoot an AOE you can miss, but still hit models with the attack (blast damage)... the only way to be directly hit by an AOE is to be the target, and the attack roll must be successful.

Boxed pretty much just means destroyed/killed.

[Mitch]

basically, the directly hits part excludes aoe / blast damage. Boxes just means fills all damage boxes. whether that be 33 damage at once, or you happen to get the last box filled. You cast the spell on a friendly model and if they do the box out, their target makes a 3" aoe POW 8 blast.

It gives a decent chance at taking out some weaker single wound models after killing a jack, or even taking out another single wound model. The other advantage is that by removing the boxed model from play it does not create rough terrain.

-hope that helps, and hope Im right :P

[Chaun]

hmmm I just noticed this works on melee attacks. Anyone see a good use for removing warjack wrecks from the game? Casting Shatter Storm on a friendly Jack would be an easy way to do this.

[The 13th Doomreaver]

Use it on Widow Makers to watch them take out clumped up infantry. It could also be good on MOW Demo Corps and Shocktroopers, since they really wouldn't be harmed by the blast. Either that, or on Ulahns.

[Malkav13]

It works well on models that have counter charge. They can charge in and take out clumped infantry that might be trying to kill your caster.

[Grizwald]

basically, the directly hits part excludes aoe / blast damage. Boxes just means fills all damage boxes. whether that be 33 damage at once, or you happen to get the last box filled.

-hope that helps, and hope Im right :P

Boxed is a game term P.64 of the WM Rule book.

The three stages a model goes through is Disabled -> Boxed -> Destroyed. Effect trigger at different points. Tough comes after being disabled. Shatter Storm comes after boxing. Gaining soul tokens comes after being destroyed.

Example:
You shoot a model in a PoM unit that has Tough with your Widowmakers that have Shatter Storm on them. First model you hit is disabled and makes it's tough roll, no longer disabled. No boxing, no Shatter Storm. Second model you shoot fails it's Tough check. Disabled ->Boxed. Shatter Storm triggers. Because Shatter Storm removes from play this model never makes it to the destroyed step, so no souls.

[Malkav13]

I believe it could also be used against Hordes to deny the ability to reave fury from a beast that is killed by a model with shatterstorm on it.

[mongre36]

It also removes models form play preventing them from being returned later if the returning effect is based on models destroyed that turn or game since a boxed model is never destroyed, just RFP. Note: the AoE does not do this, just the direct part of the attack.

The spell can be used to deny soul and corpse tokens.

[Blarg D Impaler]

So, does this mean that I can't do my favorite employment of this spell and take advantage of Shatter Storm in conjunction with Rain of Death?

[Loot]

So, does this mean that I can't do my favorite employment of this spell and take advantage of Shatter Storm in conjunction with Rain of Death?

Yes that is what it means. The RoD is not a direct attack.

Best use is probably the Widowmakers. The rocketeers can be fun as well. Pow 6 blast followed by a Pow 8. Most light infantry are going to go down if they are clipped.

[Appolus]

You can no longer do that, no. If I recall correctly, the Mk I card said units in b2b with the Dev were directly hit, but now it just says that they suffer a POW 18 blast damage roll.

It hurts, I know. The "blast damage" term means I can't use MY favorite trick of blowing away whole units of dug in trenchers anymore. He is still a great jack, just lost one or two tricks is all.

[Tevesh]

You can no longer do that, no. If I recall correctly, the Mk I card said units in b2b with the Dev were directly hit, but now it just says that they suffer a POW 18 blast damage roll.

It hurts, I know. The "blast damage" term means I can't use MY favorite trick of blowing away whole units of dug in trenchers anymore. He is still a great jack, just lost one or two tricks is all.

If the Devastator is in B2B with the Trencher, they lose the Dug In bonus. I know, not the best situation but you do get a consolation prize.

[Appolus]

Yeah, but now I only get 2-3 dead boys in blue, when I used to take out the whole bunch of them on average dice before. Guess they need some way to justify their 11 points.

[Tevesh]

Well, you could get into B2B and then Trample all over them next turn. I know any other jack could do that against Trenchers, but we're talking about the Devastator, so got to look on the positive.

Actually, upon further review, I might have figured out a way to extend the POW 9s. Trenchers lose Dug In if engaged, which is based off of your melee range. In the case of the Dev, this is half an inch. So, with the Dev, you need to maneuver and possibly Bulldoze the Trenchers into the proper range, but you might be able to catch one or two more by measuring your melee range to check with Trenchers are engaged and therefore are about to eat a POW 9.

[Helatus]

Hi guys,

Thought I would reserect this thread with a question.

Does shatter storm work when you destroy a single wound infantry unit? For example:

I cast shatter storm on my widowmakers. They shoot a cygnar long gunner and hit. Does this trigger shatter storm? I ask because the definition of boxed is a little hazy to me.

Thanks,

Hel

[bmeier]

Hi guys,

Thought I would reserect this thread with a question.

Does shatter storm work when you destroy a single wound infantry unit? For example:

I cast shatter storm on my widowmakers. They shoot a cygnar long gunner and hit. Does this trigger shatter storm? I ask because the definition of boxed is a little hazy to me.

Thanks,

Hel

Yes, Shatter storm does trigger. Single wound models can become disabled and boxed just like any other model.

[Tsaimath]

but if your shatterstorm kills the NEXT longgunner there won't be another shatterstorm explosion untill the next widowmaker took his shot