dipping jacks

[coltensvennes]

I'm trying to encourage myself to paint, I'm quite a lazy guy when it comes to it. I will be playing RoS and I have some idea's but what I'm wondering is how dipping looks on a smooth jack surface? any suggestions? pitchers? idea's of color schemes, that look good for dipping. I want to go with a white body color with a blue haze going from top to bottom, and the selected figures would have red hands(like power fists).

[coltensvennes]

no replies? am i in the wrong form?

[Almightyfoon]

Your in the right forum. Take a look at JTY's white khador for dipped jacks. Personally I normally don't like dipping on smooth flat surfaces, but he did it right.

[Prismatik]

One thing you need to keep in mind with dipping, it works on smaller figures with condensed detail because you CAN dip them and then swing them 'round till they're properly shaded (and the excess dip flys off). When you're talking about something like a jack, you can't usually get it into the mouth of the dip and you most certainly can't swing it 'round or it'll snap off it's base and into the head of someone standing in your neighbor's yard.

When jacks are concerned, you'll have to take the brush-dip method, the one where you load up a brush of the dip in question and then you stroke it onto your mini. From there, you'll need to wait a minute or so for it to settle and then you need to wick it away from the deeper recesses to ensure that you don't totally fill in the gaps. It's not as easy as dipping a smaller mini, but it'll still get you a tabletop figure in the end.

Good luck and post here what you end up with!

[dkindt]

As mentioned, take a look at this http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?t=54

Starting from about the 25th post onwards are good examples of the technique you appear to be going after. Good luck!

[Vash1313]

I agree - the bigger the model the harder it is to use the dip method. Problem with jacks is that they are so big and heavy you can't really shake it to get the dip off or else if is liable to break free and fly across the room. The brush on method works pretty well depending how uniformly you can brush it on and how well you prevent pooling on large flat areas.

Cheers

[Capsfan34]

Well being their playing Retribution, shaking off the Heavy Jacks are gonna be easy considering they are plastic.

[Faerun]

Not the colourscheme you described, but it fits the bill of dipped jacks ;]

http://www.privateerpressforums.com/...ead.php?t=1566

[Gnoa]

I actually dipped a Cygnar Ironclad last night, it is still drying and i haven't had much of a chance to look at it...but i will post how it looks. I myself was curious how jacks could turn out, and i just had that one laying around.

[jullevi]

One thing you need to keep in mind with dipping, it works on smaller figures with condensed detail because you CAN dip them and then swing them 'round till they're properly shaded (and the excess dip flys off). When you're talking about something like a jack, you can't usually get it into the mouth of the dip and you most certainly can't swing it 'round or it'll snap off it's base and into the head of someone standing in your neighbor's yard.

Agreed, but not for the reasons you mentioned. Dipping works best with miniatures that have lot of details because of how dip works - it settles in the cracks and crevices, creating smooth shading between details (ie. similar to inks and washes). Add lots of large smooth areas and you no longer benefit from shading that much.

When jacks are concerned, you'll have to take the brush-dip method, the one where you load up a brush of the dip in question and then you stroke it onto your mini.

Generally speaking, I prefer brush-dipping for all models, not just large ones. Not only does dipping by brush give you better control, it requires less effort and is equally fast. When I dip with brush, I don't have to make any special arrangements to prevent excess dip from flying everywhere or be afraid of miniatures braking apart while skaking them like crazy.

I have dipped 100+ miniatures and tried both methods. I can easily suggest dipping with brush.

From there, you'll need to wait a minute or so for it to settle and then you need to wick it away from the deeper recesses to ensure that you don't totally fill in the gaps.

It's a good idea to check the results couple of times during the first hour or so, when it's still not too late to remove pooling excess dip.

idea's of color schemes, that look good for dipping

Dipping creates a brownish overall shading for your miniature, so it works best with colours that can be shaded brown without looking bad. In general, this means all shades of brown, flesh tones and certain greens, yellows and reds. Blue and pure white are probably the least suitable colours.

My tips for dipping:

1. Choose your colours carefully and make them lighter than you normally would
2. Use a brush to apply the dip
3. Give the models coat of matt varnish before posting pictures on forums

[DeathGuard]

I dipped some jacks for a friend a while back. I brushed on Minwax Polyshades Satin Tudor straight from the can let it dry for 24 hours then hit it with a dullcoat.