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    Lightbulb Painting & Modeling Posting Guidelines & FAQ

    Welcome!

    Welcome to Privateer Press' Painting & Modeling Forum!

    This place exists to promote discussion about the artistic portion of the tabletop miniatures gaming hobby. Show off your latest masterpiece, ask questions, post a tutorial, get feedback on a project and everything in between!

    [Guideline]: What can be posted?
    Any and all miniatures produced by Privateer Press, or relating to the Iron Kingdoms. Sculpture's great, too! Additionally, any discussions on miniature painting in general are welcome.

    [Guideline]: What can't be posted?
    This is Privateer Press' forum, and it is maintained for use for discussion things relating to Privateer Press products. In that regard, anything unrelated to Privateer Press products, characters, worlds or IP may be removed at a moderator's discretion.
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    Terrain belongs in the Terrain forum, and other forms of art not involving miniatures likely belong in the Fan Art forum.
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    Additionally, symbols associated with hate speech are absolutely forbidden on the Privateer forums and in official Privateer sponsored painting events. Our forums and painting community aims to be a welcoming and inclusive place and there will be absolutely no tolerance of any miniatures paint schemes that contain symbols associated with hate groups. Appeals to "historical context" are meaningless due to the fact that none of the Iron Kingdoms fictional characters and groups have any relation to real world history.

    This policy is not open to discussion.

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    tl;dr: Don't be a jerk; good feedback is both positive and negative but most of all it's useful. The [CC] tag is used to request detailed criticism and in-depth discussion on a project (see below).

    A common language...
    Feedback: Any observations given about the poster's project, be it positive or negative.
    Praise: Feedback that points out the things done that were done well (Positive Feedback).
    Critique / Criticism:
    Feedback that points out the things that need improvement or that don't work (Negative Feedback).

    Good feedback includes both praise and criticism. Positive feedback tells the poster what they're doing right; where they have had success, and that's very useful. The negative feedback helps identify areas that need improvement which the artist may or may not know about.

    Just because we try to engender a positive environment doesn't mean it's "illegal" or "not OK" to offer some helpful critiques or criticisms. It means don't be a jerk when you post your feedback. There's a huge difference between, "I was always told that if I didn't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." and "This is a solid beginning to the studio scheme - have you researched how to do shadows and highlights? Here are some helpful links for your next steps." They both tell the poster that their work is below average and needs improvement, but one effectively attacks the poster and the other provides useful information. Good feedback is useful, above all else; that's that "constructive" keyword in "constructive criticism".

    [Guideline]: Constructive Criticism
    Due to the text-only nature of the forum, unsolicited critiques on models can come across as abrasive or mean. While critiques are not prohibited, the forum has generally adopted the old rule of "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

    In an effort to engender more critiques and critical feedback, posts wishing to get constructive criticism on a project should be marked with [CC] before the thread title. Doing so establishes the following expectations for both the content poster and the commenters:
    • Critiques of the photos and/or models posted by the OP are welcome and encouraged.
    • Feedback will be meaningful and kindly worded(For instance, "Try an ink wash to help separate the armor plates and frame the model." "This is crap, set it on fire." is unacceptable.).
    • The OP will be good-natured about receiving feedback (After all, the whole exercise is pointless if you get upset about getting the criticism you asked for).
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    [FAQ]: Is my conversion legal?
    The official conversion rules can be found as part of the Steamroller organized Play packet, here. They're fairly self-explanatory, but they boil down to two main concepts:
    • Don't imply that the model has a rule it does not in fact have (such as putting wings on a model without flight).
    • Don't imply a model does not have a rule that it in fact does have (like 2" reach, or flight).


    The answer you're going to get is: "Probably, but check with the EO."

    Instead of asking, "Is this conversion legal?", a more discussion-worthy question might be, "Does this conversion convey my goal of making the model look like..." or "I'm trying to convey <X>, will this idea work?".

    [FAQ]: I'm new to painting, what do you think?
    Awesome, welcome to one of the most rewarding hobbies around!

    The most common feedback given to new painters is:
    1. Thin your paints - Several thin coats is much better than one thick coat at preserving the sculpted detail on the model.
    2. Use washes - They're a quick and easy way to add shadows. Slop 'em on.
    3. More contrast - Because the models are so small and viewed from so far away, you have to over do the shadows and highlights.


    So, when you show us your painted models (and please do), ask about specifics, rather than general feedback.

    [FAQ]: Can I advertise my commission painting service?
    1. Advertising / soliciting for work on the forum isn't allowed. This is why Kickstarter links aren't allowed. This is PP's forum, and shouldn't be used to sell anything else.
    2. Responding to questions about commission painting with links to external sites detailing commission work examples or rates for the express purpose of explaining or providing an example is fine. Abuse of this falls under #1 above.
    3. Commission Artists are allowed to have a text link to your portfolio / commission site in your signature. Again, abuse of this brings us back #1.


    As an aside, remember that PMs still fall under the Forum ToS so all the above rules still apply to PMs. That said, feel free to trade e-mails via PM, but do not conduct any business on the forum. You can report PMs just like any other forum post by using the report feature (little triangle with an "!" in it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS_DC View Post
    Having different things appeal to different players is the way that we keep a broader audience engaged and how we appeal to new players... View the things that don't appeal to you as a necessary evil if you must, but maybe look at them instead as something that will ensure this game you play will still be around years down the road.

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