Veil of Mists & moving through models

[rewision]

Place a 4" AOE cloud effect... While in the AOE, friendly Faction models can move through obstructions and other models if they have enough movement to move completely past them

So my question is: Can model a (turquoise) move through the models if the placement of the aoe (gray) is the same as in the image?

[themocaw]

No.

10 characters. Seriously, it's not that hard.

[unmotivated]

No, because it says "while in the AOE", as soon as your base completely leaves the AOE you no longer get its effects.

[Revvy]

No.

10 characters. Seriously, it's not that hard.

I dunno, I can see a case for it otherwise. You have the ability as long as you're partially inside of the AOE and you're allowed to move through them as long as you have enough movement remaining. If you could clear halfway over the model before you lose the ability, least disturbance would take over and you'd slide to the other side. Atleast that's my guess after a quick look at it.

[silverpuppy]

your movement would also end immediatly ontop of the model you were attempting to move through when you exit the veil aoe. you could not move any further then the spot you leave the aoe and the models around you would be moved accordingly due to rules of least disturbance. if that is legal at all.

[Ger]

I see several scenarios based on Veil placement. For simplicity I'm going to assume same base models and we can extrapolate to higher models later. I'll also assume a straight line movement IE: Directly towards and then away with the middle of the moving model passing over the middle of the model your moving past.

1a: Veil is right in front but not touching the model you want to move through. When you exit the veil the middle of your base will not have crossed past the model. Thus I do not think it would be legal....
1b: Veil is touching the model you want to move through but is not past it's center point. Thus when you exit the Veil the center point of your model is going to be just past the center point of the model your over.
1c: Veil is almost completely over the model you wish to move through. However the edge of Veil is about 1 mm short of the opposite edge of the models base. Thus when your model exits the Veil you'd still have ~ 1 mm of base left ontop of the model.
2: Veil extends to be equal to or further then the edge of the models base you wish to move through. The edge of your base will not be on top of the model when you exit veil.

While 2 is clearly legal, the first 3 scenarios are different circumstances of the same overall issue. Thus I think the best question to ask is:

"A model exits the Veil of Mist AoE and is still on top of another model. How do you resolve this?"

[Ger]

http://privateerpressforums.com/show...ght=veil+mists
The only reason I think that 1a-1c may be possible is the ruling on incorporeal. Which is a similar "Suddenly your on top of a model blocking your charge". With a key difference being you will always take a freestrike from an incorporeal model after the edge of your base passes the center/middle point of the model your moving over. (Thus it'll be situation 1C.)

[Not Dice]

No.

10 characters. Seriously, it's not that hard.

You know what else isn't hard? Being polite.

[DarqueChaplaine]

With regards to the OP, assuming LOS doesn't need to be determined, and movement is available, I don't see why you couldn't continue. Course I have never had or been part of precision placed veils.

[PG_The Captain]

The model does not have enough movement to move completely past the other model while within the veil, thus he cannot move past the model, the move is illegal and needs to be rewound.

The Veil is not a "models currently in the Veil" or "models beginning their movement within the Veil". It's "While within the Veil".

[themocaw]

You know what else isn't hard? Being polite.

Sorry about that, yeah, that came off as needlessly rude. Mea Culpa.