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    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleboy View Post
    I've made the 100 point lists with 2 casters selected and can still add 2 journeyman warcasters
    Which is totally fine. Journeymen are solos, not Warcasters and don't count against you limit of Warcasters.

    So what is the supposed error?

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    The supposed error is that I can take 2 solos that have an FA of 1 on the card. Does FA change in larger games? If it does I must have missed that somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleboy View Post
    The supposed error is that I can take 2 solos that have an FA of 1 on the card. Does FA change in larger games? If it does I must have missed that somewhere.
    Yes, each warcaster/warlock in an army makes the number of models you can take (FA * the number of warcasters/warlocks). This is true for everything except FA C as you can only ever have 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS_Hungerford View Post
    Imagine him walking up to 8 small based troopers, say a unit in shield wall, and making 64 attacks for a single focus.

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    As DarkLegacy said, Field Allowance means "per Warcaster".

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    Well I've learned my new thing for the day, I will now go home and go back to bed.
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    Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Madrak is spelled wrong for all instances of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPS_Hungerford View Post
    Imagine him walking up to 8 small based troopers, say a unit in shield wall, and making 64 attacks for a single focus.

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    This is only a minor thing, but pKreuger and eKreuger seem to be mixed up. The first entry in the list adds 'Kreuger the Stormlord' to the list, and the second adds 'Kreuger the Stormwrath'.

    Stormwrath is pKreuger, Stormlord is eKreuger.

    Just a minor niggle I've been noticing. Otherwise a great program, thanks for all your hard work to keep it updated.

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    Default At last! A new release, and not a small one this time!

    The tiers of Feora, Retribution, Cygnar and Khador have gone into beta, so feel free to test them and please send feedback to info@fowardkommander.com. The tiers have been a lot of work, because of the interaction between some of them and the configuration for each warcaster is fault sensitive.
    Other great news is that I now have a sponsor, as you can see. They also helped me with the new kick-*** logo. So if you want new mini's look at www.miniaturemarket.com first.

    All fixes in this new version:
    * Changing amounts does change the sort order if more of the same
    * Cygnar tiers
    * The Tier 2 for Ravynn says you get 1 free mage hunter SOLO, not just stipulating its a free mage hunter assasin. So you can have an assasin, Eiryss or Epic Eiryss for free. On Eiryss' card its states she is a mage hunter, that how this can be done because of that wording. (Great program. I was making a retribution list with Ravyn when I noticed her Tier was set up wrong. Tier two is limited to Mage Hunter Assassin when it should be any Mage hunter solo (Narn, Nayl, Eriyss or the assassin). Also doing the list I could get Tier one to light up and tier their but two never turned orange.)
    * Feora tiers
    * Khador tiers
    * units with FA:U due to tier are only showing 6 size option
    * New banner
    * Added venethrax
    * Added vindicus

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    Khador Theme list

    Karchev - requirement for tier 3 should be one unit of Greylord Ternion not two.

    Keep up the good work,

    Thanks
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    I?m trying to make a 150 point list for a game later this week. I usually add casters then jacks and move jacks to the casters or jack marshal using the arrows. When I click the arrows now the jacks are being deleted not moved to another controller. Also the 150 pt list I made and saved yesterday only comes back as only 2 of the 3 casters and 1 of the jacks from the full 150 points.
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    I can confirm, using the arrows deletes the jacks. But only if you move it to another warcaster. moving the jack to a jack marshal works.

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    I just built a pSorscha Tier3 List and I can't add Kovnik Joe to the list for free as I should be able to.
    His price should go down to 0 when the T2 requirements are fulfilled.

    Thanks for the great work, really nice program.

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    Also, Karchev tier CAN take Behemoth.

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    Found some oddities when building 100pt Highborn list.

    1- Select Highborn Covenant
    2- Select Battle Royale (2Caster 100pt)
    3- Add Ashlynn -> Her jacks become selectable
    4- Add Gorten -> His jacks are not selectable
    5- Add Arcane Tempest Gun Mages -> Unable to add UA
    6- Remove Gorten
    7- Add ATGM UA
    8- Add Gorten
    9- Remove Ashlynn - > All jacks now selectable
    10 - Add Ashlynn
    Jacks can not be transfered from Casters to JM
    Jacks can not be transfered from JM to JM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehcsztein View Post
    Found some oddities when building 100pt Highborn list.

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    5- Add Arcane Tempest Gun Mages -> Unable to add UA
    6- Remove Gorten
    7- Add ATGM UA
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    Jacks can not be transfered from Casters to JM
    Jacks can not be transfered from JM to JM
    I've had the same problem with Cygnar. I tried making a Sloan/Siege list and until I dropped one of the 'casters I couldn't add the ATGM UA, and all the transfer buttons did was delete 'jacks and not move them around.

    It's most likely a problem with the ATGM UA.

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    Actually I have a similar problem.

    I have no option to add Jacks or Beast. This is even after adding a JnR, Marshall or Caster. I also cannot add unit attachments even after adding the unit. I tried some of the options other posters got to work but no success for me. Does this to all factions.

    Second all my Saved lists only add the caster if I load them. I have tried reload and relogging in.

    Also these happen on both my machines and in Firefox, IE7,8 and Chrome. Great great program though. Also glad to see you adding in the tiers but I can't access them either
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    Lord Commander Stryker's theme army is incorrect. It decreases PC of StormCLADs by one, not Storm LANCEs. The same mistake is present in T4 - it requires two Stormclads, not two units of Storm Lances.

    Also, whatever you did to implement the theme armies totally destroyed my saved 150-point army (it loads as 23 points now), and I cannot remake it because of the issues mentioned above where the arrow buttons just delete 'jacks instead of moving them.
    Last edited by Cloud-Gatherer; 04-18-2010 at 03:19 PM.

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    Would be great to get the Bane Thrall UA (Standard Bearer and Officer) added. As they have been out for 3 weeks now and are not added and Venethrax is only leaked info and is already added.

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    In between demanding RL stuff, I got this fix in for you guys, enjoy! And please let me know any problems.

    * To much sorting arrows for jackmarshalling weapon attachments
    * Multiple warcasters seems to be broken
    * New models:
    * Exemplar Errant Seneschal
    * Vassal Mechanik
    * Statyxis Blood Hag (Unit not there)
    * Bane thrall Officer & Standard
    * Tier problems:
    * Lord Commander Stryker's theme army is incorrect. It decreases PC of StormCLADs by one, not Storm LANCEs. The same mistake is present in T4 - it requires two Stormclads, not two units of Storm Lances.
    * Siege tiers - Trencher Infantry and Trencher Commandos get the -1 bonus, not Rangers.
    * Karchev's tiers don't allow Behemoth. He should be allowed.
    * Karchev tier 3 only requires one unit of Greylords, you have it requiring two.
    * Vlad Tier 4 requires only Berzerkers and Drago to be valid, you have Marauder listed.
    * I Believe Winter Guard weapon crews count as "Winter Guard units" for Sorscha's tiers, but they aren't showing up as such.

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    Great update

    New model to add - madelyn-corbeau (she came out yesterday)

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    have some problems with the new interface... the "box" (or whatever) for the actual point values is too small, so it gets wrapped to a new line, and then is hidden behind the army name box

    box still ok:
    http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5...eenshot1je.png
    adding another model, box not ok anymore:
    http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6...eenshot2lf.png


    (i'm using firefox 3.5.9 on fedora 12)

    EDIT: sry, had to do with my own preferences in the font dialog.... so just forget about this post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilvati View Post
    In between demanding RL stuff, I got this fix in for you guys, enjoy! And please let me know any problems.
    Thanks! Your site is my main list building tool.

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    Fixed:
    * Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan
    * Blood Witches
    * Scythean

    And the wrapping problem has always been there with long names, it's on my todo list, but life is still demanding...

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    Blood Witches are listed as a 6/10 unit, they are a 4/6 unit.

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    * Added Hammerfall High Shield Gun Corps Officer & Standard
    * Added Horgenhold Artillery Corps
    * Mortenebra tiers
    * Small fix in number of model in min winterguard riffle corps
    * Field mechanics have wrong number of grunts for min unit
    * Wrong pointcost for the satyxis blood witches
    * EVlads tier 3 was wrong

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    Still trying to figure out what is wrong, but the Mortenebra Tier 3 & 4 are not working.
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    It appears that the tier 3 & 4 bonuses aren't working because you "must have the following units". I made a 100pt list to test it and it does appear that in order to get the tier 3 & 4 bonuses you must have every unit listed in that mouse-over window. Could this be fixed by making the requirements the same as the first tier ("only" instead of "must have")?

    Edit: This is for Mortenebra Tiers
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    Quick bug report: eFeora's tier bonuses are going gray when adding a Vassal Mechanik. Per FoW: Protectorate of Menoth, this is a valid solo for her to include in her Theme List.

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    Little time, is little update:
    * Added the Errant Exemplar UA
    * Really fixed Mortenebra Tier 3
    * Fixed the Arcane Tempest UA for Kara Sloan tier 1

    Up next are the Menoth Tiers, whenever I find some time.

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    First I just want to say thanks for the awesome tool! Privateer Press should higher you to make this thing the official list builder.

    Also I noticed it looks like Karchev's body boxes on his damage grid are not working when printing his list.

    Thanks again for the hard work!

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    Default Here are the menoth tiers!

    Finally the menoth tiers are done! Note that they are in beta, so please please let me know if you find anything wrong with them. The tiers are kind of hard to do because of all the countless options and also we are trying to get my house ready for my girlfiend to move in which take quite some time. Enjoy!

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    Any chance that the page could be modified so that it fits better into a 1024x600 netbook screen. Perhaps a subpage that fits better onto this screen format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilvati View Post
    Finally the menoth tiers are done! Note that they are in beta, so please please let me know if you find anything wrong with them. The tiers are kind of hard to do because of all the countless options and also we are trying to get my house ready for my girlfiend to move in which take quite some time. Enjoy!
    One right off the bat - Amon; the FA for Allegiants goes back to 2 after adding one to the list, regardless of Zealot/Idrian units.
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    Thanks for all the updates. Great online program, easy to use.

    Noticed that Reznik does not receive his -1 point for Reckoners for his Tier 1 benefit.
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    Fixed:
    * Warpwolf stalker
    * Shea tiers
    * Diretroll bomber
    * Titan sentry
    * Missed the steelhead riflemen
    * Rezniks Tier 1 also reduces the cost of the Reckoner Jacks by 1.
    * Epic Severius's tier list breaks when you add the Covenant of Menoth - which is required for tier 2.

    By the way, I always forget to mention this, but thanks all for the feedback! It makes this tool work.
    Sadly I do not really have time for bigger updates at this moment, but I still hope you are happy with it!

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    Cephalyx Mind Slaver & 5 Drudges still are in the four star...

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    Re: Kaelyssa's tiers 3-4, FK is not counting either version of Eiryss or Narn as Mage Hunter solos. Four Mage Hunter solos are required for Tier 3, without which one can not get Tier 4. I am also unsure if Nayl counts as a Mage Hunter solo; I know the other two-ish do.

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    I cannot select Circle Orboros to make lists for. It just keeps the same faction up. Also, I cannot load Circle lists.

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    Just a quick one-

    When building an Amon theme list I added an Allegiant of the Order of the Fist and the tier bonus goes away as well as losing all of the tier bonuses.
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    Hey, first thanks for your work on this site.

    2nd, is there any way to disable the theme tier lists? Maybe you could code it in somehow. With mercs the contracts give their own bonus and it's conceivable that even if you qualify for the tiered bonus you may not want to take it.
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