When determining the effects of a spell or ability that affects models within a specified distance of a model, the effect is a circular area extending out from the model’s base and including the area under the model’s base. Unless the spell or ability says otherwise, however, that model is not considered to be within the distance itself.We've been discussing this on the Circle forums here.While within 3˝ of this model + 1˝ for each other model in this unit that is in formation, enemy models cannot cast spells and friendly models cannot be targeted by enemy spells. Counter Magic lasts for one round.
The question is whether or not the Druid Leader is, himself, affected by Counter Magic. If I am reading things correctly, he is not. In other words, he is targettable by enemy spells.
My own attempt at explaining how this works:
Counter Magic specifies 'while within X" of this model'. The 'this model' part is the key word, near as I can tell. It means that while models close to the model may be effected, 'this model' is not. Look at the wording and forget the assumption that the Druid Leader is automatically included in the 'within' area, and it does make sense.
It's models within a distance of him, but not him, himself.
Some people are confusing the 'within X"' with 'within control area' or 'within AoE effect'.
The first includes the model inside of it because a warcaster/warlock is always included in his control area.
Primal, pg. 75"A model is always considered to be in its own control area."
The within AoE effect is because that's where the model is - inside of an AoE effect that includes it.
So a Druid that summons a Vortex is inside of the Vortex cloud effect, and gets its' benefits.
The Druid Leader is not affected by his own Counter Magic. He is targettable by enemy spells.
Is this correct, or incorrect?
If this is correct, then try and explain why - I've tried, but I'm having trouble doing so in a way people will understand it.
If incorrect, same deal - try and explain why.