First 50 point game pIrusk/eIrusk

[mr. blank]

Hey there. So, I've been playing a decent amount in the last couple of weeks but I'm still fairly new, played maybe a dozen games. I dig the models a lot so I've been picking them up on a regular basis so my collection feels pretty good.

I think its time to step up to a bigger sized game to 50 points. I have noticed that when I play with either Irusk I perform more consistently. So, here's two lists I put together: one with prime, the other with epic.

Supreme Kommandant Irusk (-5)
-Destroyer *9 points
-Devastator *9 points
-War Dog *1 point

Battle Mechaniks *2 points (min)
Great Bears *5 points
Man-O-War Demo Corp *9 points (max)
Winter Guard Infantry *6 points (max)
-Officer Standard *2 points
Winter Guard Mortar Crew *3 points
Kovnik Jozef *2 points

Man-O-War Drakhun w/dismount *5 points
Widowmaker Marksman *2 points

General Tactics: Keep back with the core (WGI) with the Demos behind it. Start shelling with the Destroyer and Mortar. Tag team the Devastator to clear a lane for a kill with the Great Bears and Drakhun (possibly, never know what will happen sometimes). The Widowmaker with FFE to just be annoying.

Kommandant Irusk (-6)
-Destroyer *9 points
-Juggernaut *7 points
-Spriggan *10 points

Battle Mechaniks *2 points (min)
Iron Fang Pikemen *5 points (min)
-Officer/Standard *2 points
Kayazy Assassins *5 points (min)
-Kayazy Underboss *2 points
Man-O-War Demo Corps *9 points (max)

Man-O-War Drakhun w/dismount *5 points

General Tactics: Get the 'Jacks up front and dirty fast, make the Spriggan superior. Destroyer and Spriggan drop some templates moving up. Pikemen shield up and protect the Demo Corps on the way up. Use the Assassins either to flank in or Iron Flesh them and tie up a unit.

I have some other casters and Jacks to throw into the mix (Marauder, Zerker, Kodiak, Drago). Any advice would be awesome. Any general advice on playing at the higher levels would also be great.

Thanks!

[GlassJaw]

I haven't run eIrusk so I won't comment on that list but I don't like your pIrusk list at all. Three jacks and min units of Assassins and IFPs?! That's totally backwards. Max out those units! Drop the Juggernaut and if you want a Destroyer, put it on a Koldun Lord.

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So I want pIrusk using the majority of his focus just making troops insane.

Second attempt at that list:

Irusk (-6)
-Spriggan *10 points

Battle Mechaniks *3 points (min)
Iron Fang Pikemen *8 points (max)
-Officer & Standard *2 points
Kayazy Assassins *8 points (max)
-Underboss *2 points
Koldun Lord *2 points
-Destroyer *9 points
Man-O-War Demo Corps *9 points (max)
Greylord Ternion *4 points

That's a lot more models on the field. I wasn't sure on when Khador should really break the 2 jacks on the field. It seems outside of Karchev lists, everybody uses two jacks at the most.

Since the Koldun Lord is in there, I tossed in the Greylords instead of the Drakhun. I like the Battle Wizard ability a lot but I'm torn between the Greylords or Widowmakers. Given that there's a lot of melee in the list, should I try to balance it out or utilize the Greylords in making targets easier to hit with Ice Cage?

[GlassJaw]

That's a pretty nasty list but you're right, it's a lot of models. It's definitely personal preference if you feel comfortable playing that way.

One idea is to drop one of your units and add some more support: Widowmakers, Great Bears, a Manhunter or 2, Yuri, eEiryss, etc, etc. I also like bringing Gorman along to block LOS to Irusk with his cloud.

[mr. blank]

Hmmmm, I do like the Gorman model and I've been dying to use him. Maybe I'll try fitting him in.

Thanks for the feedback!