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    Default Noobie Ravyn list 35 pt.

    edit: herp derp I meant 25 point army

    I wanted to know what you guys think about my 25 pt. army. I have never played a miniatures game before, but wanted to start with warmachine.

    Houseguard Halbrediers x10 7
    Houseguard Riflemen x10 8
    Stormfall Archers x4 5
    Ravyn -6
    Discordia 10
    Arcanist 1

    Is this list to susceptible to splash? other problems?

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    I'd say Halberdiers isn't really optimal, try a min mhsf + ua instead, ofcourse if this isnt what you already got and your looking to compete in tournaments, you might be looking for another setup alltogether, but then again, put in mhsf and it not bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkerocker View Post
    I wanted to know what you guys think about my 25 pt. army. I have never played a miniatures game before, but wanted to start with warmachine.
    If you can, then you should start at 15pts, and with an emphasis on jacks.

    On your list:
    Warmachine is a game about composition, tactics and synergy... so you can't just take a smattering of units. Given at this points level you're going to be taking a jack (and a heavy by the looks of it), if you're taking a (max) unit, then you can only really take one; and you will want to add the Officer and Standard Bearer Unit Attachment. With Ravyn I would probably suggest Invictors for the unit; but keeping with your list, drop one of the Houseguard units to add the UA to the other and use the spare points for some additional supportive elements (solos, small units).

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    You could do better than a Discordia, as well. Phoenix (IMO) and Manticore (according to others I have spoken with) offer better synergy with Ravyn than Discordia. Stormfall Archers are a solid choice for nearly any army, what with the AOE fire and all. JonAss is correct, MHSF are better with Ravyn than Halbrediers (personally, I don't really care for Houseguard anyways).

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    I haven't purchased any units yet, I am short on cash and want to make sure I buy the right starting group. I really like Ravyn due to her bonuses on ranged units. The way I saw the list that I posted working was having the halbrediers tank while the rifleman and archers shot over them.

    Quote Originally Posted by thecsharian View Post
    If you can, then you should start at 15pts, and with an emphasis on jacks.
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    I'm not against making a 15 point army. I don't think having an all jack army would be fun. Any suggestions on a 15 point army that uses Ravyn and at least one unit?

    Thank you all for your valuable input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkerocker View Post
    I'm not against making a 15 point army. I don't think having an all jack army would be fun. Any suggestions on a 15 point army that uses Ravyn and at least one unit?
    Jacks are plenty fun, and the idea is more to learn the game than anything else.

    I would suggest Ravyn, a Heavy (Discordia/Manticore/Phoenix), Stormfall Archers and a couple of solos... something like this maybe:

    Ravyn, Eternal Light
    - Discordia
    Stormfall Archers (Leader and 3 Grunts)
    Arcanist
    Eiryss, Angel of Retribution
    Mage Hunter Assassin

    Alternatively (and perhaps worth considering) you could drop some solos for a ligth warjack... I've avoided that purely to stick with what your original list contained and other classic Ret pieces.
    This list is simple, small and shouldn't play in too complicated a manner. As other have suggested Ravyn with Mage Hunter Strike Forces is quite a powerful option, but that's no reason to jump straight into one way of looking at things. Looking at your 25pt list (and given my previous comments), I think expanding with a full unit of Halberdiers could make for a fun and interesting list.
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