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    Default Dave's Khador

    When I started playing Warmachine my first faction was khador. Since then I have played around with various factions but I have always kept an eye on the model releases for my first faction. When I started playing Mercs I limited myself at first to models that would work for Khador with the intention of getting back into playing them. That is a few years ago now and finally I am getting round to revamping my old Khador force.

    I am a notoriously slow painter (any of the my gaming club’s members on these boards will vouch for that), and finishing a fully painted army before I get distracted by the next new shiny thing is a real challenge for me. In fact the thread title should probably be “Dave’s Khador: Lessons in procrastination” because I looked up a thread I created on my gaming club’s own forum about starting to redo my Khador, embarrassingly that thread was from July 2011.


    My original Khador models will have been painted about 2007/2008 I guess. Most have been stripped, sold, or ripped apart for conversions but I still have a few of the models I painted from that time. So I figured it might be cool to see if my painting has improved over the years (I’ll be gutted if it hasn’t lol) so I won’t strip what models I have left, I’ll paint a second model and post side by side pictures.

    Pictures coming soon...

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    Completed models:
    Kossite Woodsman
    Black Ivan
    Black Dragon Ironfang Pikemen
    Orsus Zoktavir, The Butcher of Khardov

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    I'm going to try and keep a track of the paints used so I'll add a list at the end of each completed model's post.
    Last edited by daveholliday; 07-17-2014 at 03:57 PM.
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    Default Kossite Woodsman

    Painted for January’s “Tale of 2014”, here are my Kossite Woodsmen









    As soon as i fine my basing materials they'll be getting some grass tufts and stuff like that.

    Edit for paint recipes:
    Coats - P3 Beast Hide, Devlan Mud wash
    Grey furs- tbd
    Leather straps - tbd
    Feathers- Black, P3 Coal Black, P3 Coal black + P3 MWH mix, black wash
    Tree stumps - P3 Thornwood Green, P3 Trollblood Highlight dry brush, WP Strong Tone wash
    Bases - P3 Battlefield Brown
    Last edited by daveholliday; 02-25-2014 at 12:03 PM. Reason: painting log
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    Default Black Ivan

    And painted for February’s “Tale of 2014” here is Black Ivan...







    ...again, when i find my basing materials the base will be getting some tufts and grass etc.

    Edit for paint recipes:
    Black - Ghool's tutorial
    Gold - used the method in the Cryx faction book (but used VMC Old Gold instead of P3 Blighted Gold)
    Red - Foundry Red Oxide A (to cover the black), P3 Battlefield Brown + Skorne Red mix, Skorne Red, Khador Red on edges only. Maybe a wash of Strong Tone
    Exhausts - tbd
    Steel - tbd
    Last edited by daveholliday; 03-17-2014 at 03:58 PM. Reason: painting log
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    Those woodsman are great!

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    Very nice work
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    Very nice work indeed!

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    Beautiful Kossites.
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    Wow, almost makes me want to paint and use my Kossites.

    Almost.
    New to Khador? Check this out:
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    i love the subdued tones you work with. looks super good imo

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    Seriously good stuff!

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    This is great work. The shading on Ivan's claw looks real. Also I really like how you captured the essence of the woodsmen and there role in the khadorian (I'm guessing that's how that's spelt or said) world

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    These look fantastic

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    Amazing work on Black Ivan there Doc, the blacks are superb!

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    Glad you like 'em folks. For the black I followed Ghool's tutorial on HandCannon, after seeing his take on Black Ivan here. It was my first real dedicated effort at this two brush blending malarky.

    Glad the natural tones on the Kossites hasn't made them too boring. I wanted to give them the feel of a none military equipped group using their own hunting tools sort of thing (as they are in the fluff).

    As I am really bad at remembering what colours I use i might go back and edit the respective posts with the colour recipes before i forgot completely.
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    great stuff. . . .how'd you do the base for Black Ivan.

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    Default Resin base tutorial link

    The bases are my own cast resin designs. I wrote a basic tutorial for the process in my Mercenaries thread here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmlizardmen View Post
    ... khadorian (I'm guessing that's how that's spelt or said) world
    Drop the i. Khadoran is the correct way.
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    awesome work man

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    Very solid on the techniques. Looking forward to seeing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigRedMachine View Post
    Drop the i. Khadoran is the correct way.
    Oh as a Canadian I thought it might have the "I". But thanks

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    i think it makes sense with the "i"

    Khadoran i would say it phonetically as kay-dor-an
    Khadorian i would say it as kay-dor-e-an

    which sounds better to me people at work are going to think im grazy repeating some nonsense word to myself.

    EDIT: just looked it up on the wiki and you are right

    http://ironkingdoms.wikia.com/wiki/Khador
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    For the last week or so I have been working on some Black Dragon Iron Fang Pikemen. This is the first one off the production line.









    Ha just noticed, i actually need to pay attention to the back of the shield when i paint it too. I painted it separately and glued it on later thinking the back of it would not be visible at all lol.

    Edit for paint recipe reminders:
    Black - BDIFP NQ#? black recipe
    Gold - as Black Ivan
    Red - as Black Ivan
    Fur - all drybrushed - Battlefield Brown, Bootstrap Leather?, Beast Hide?, Menoth White Highlight, light wash of Strong Tone.
    Cloak - Black, Black+Coal Black mix, Black + Coal + Trollblood Highlight mix, Black + Trollblood Highlight mix, black wash?
    Leather bandoleer - Gun Corps Brown, wash of Battlefield brown, wash of battlefield brown + Exile blue mix, highlight gun corps then maybe beast hide?
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    Very nice work! Those woodsmen are gorgeous. Impressive. Keep up the good work and keep posting.

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    Struggling with this unit, but I have got the first 6 finished. Just got to get the other 4 plus officer and standard bearer done.

    Sorry about the grainy pic, used my phone.


    I tried to paint the full 12 models in a production line, but had to break it down to 6 models. I just couldn't handle it
    Gotta go psyche myself up for the rest now lol
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    Gorgeous work. Keep it up!

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    Thanks for the comments folks, glad you like them.

    Does any one remember seeing a metal Devastator conversion on these forums that made the arms movable to show whether the armoured shell was open or closed? I want to convert my plastic jack in a similar fashion and was just wondering how the person had achieved it with the metal version.

    I have some ideas just not fully realised yet.
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    Found two links:

    Nerd Forest's blog

    Yurimow's posts here and here.

    Could have sworn there was a pale blue painted Devastator too?
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    Right then, real life happened (i am now a dad) and I have started finding time to paint again. So they'll be some updates coming before long.

    I have been painting the other half of the BDIFP unit over the last day or so. They should be finished soon with a bit of luck.

    My Clamjack conversion has ground to a halt, just not had time to mess with it.

    Finally my second Ironfang Kovnik has arrived (been on order since December) so I am planning a conversion there so the two models are different on the table top.
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    Trying to complete painting the unit before I start messing with conversions, but the UA is nearly done.

    WIP picture:
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    Fantastic work man! I am wondering if your using pre-made bases for the whole of your army.

    I always love blogs like this, keep up this fantastic work!

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    Thanks for the comments.

    I make my own resin bases, both my Merc's and most of my Khador are mounted on the same bases.
    My Farrow and the Kossites (and Yuri, Manhunters & Widowmakers when I get round go them) are mounted on wooded bases. Links to the respective blogs are in my sig.

    Being lazy now just quoting a previous post as it has a link to a tutorial on making my bases.
    Quote Originally Posted by daveholliday View Post
    The bases are my own cast resin designs. I wrote a basic tutorial for the process in my Mercenaries thread here.
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    Thanks for sharing! I like them, saves a whole lot of time casting them in resin

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    Default Completed Black Dragon Ironfang Pikemen

    Painting success!
    I have finally finished that unit of Black Dragons....
    So the UA and the 4 IFP to expand the min unit to a max unit are my June entry for the Tale of 2014:

    Black Dragon UA:


    Additional 4 unit members:



    I am pleased with how the unit has turned out so here are some full unit shots...
    Ironfang Pikemen:


    IFP + Black Dragon UA:
    Last edited by daveholliday; 06-24-2014 at 01:41 PM. Reason: spelling
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    Fantastic work man! I really like the black highlight. Which paints did you use for that?

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    Thanks Killax, glad you like them.

    The black armour uses the following P3 paints:
    • Thamar Black
    • Exile Blue
    • Coal Black
    • Trollblood Highlight
    • Frostbite


    The metallics were done first, as I always find them messy to work with, once they were done the armour was touched up with black to get back to a nice neat base coat. Then its really just gradually narrower more selective highlighting with the following mixes:
    1. Coal Black + Exile Blue + a touch of Thamar Black
    2. Above mix with Trollblood Highlight
    3. Above mix with Frostbite
    4. Wash of Thamar Black


    That recipe is from the NQ#40 Guts & Gears article on the Ironfang Pikemen and painting the Black Dragons. However I strongly recommend reading this article by Ghool on painting black armour (whether or not you have NQ40 to look at, as it is very good).
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    Really nice painting. Your models have a very true to life look to them. Toned down colour choices just make them seem more realistic, which I really like. This is especially apparent with the models in your first post (the woodsmen, I believe). Thanks for sharing, Dave. And grats on becoming a dad

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    I really like those black and red Khador.... must.. not .. steal. GAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus753 View Post
    Really nice painting. Your models have a very true to life look to them. Toned down colour choices just make them seem more realistic, which I really like. This is especially apparent with the models in your first post (the woodsmen, I believe). Thanks for sharing, Dave. And grats on becoming a dad
    Thanks for the comments. I am lucky to have some very talented painters in my area and one tip i picked up was to think about the colour of undercoat I use. I used to just use a black spray primer (prefering that to white), but after the advice of one such painter i have started using a brown spray over the top of the black spray. You can see what I mean in this post in my Mercenaries thread in the first image of the two jacks (i started experimenting with zenithal undercoating too, the black/grey/white models in the foreground of the lower image but have not actually got round to painting those models). That and trying to choose a natural colour palette worked great for the Kossite Woodsmen (and my Merc's and Farrow for that matter). The red on the Ironfang Pikemen had some brown mixed in it's base coat so I image that'll do the same thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Soria View Post
    I really like those black and red Khador.... must.. not .. steal. GAH!
    Steal away, it's not like an original scheme or anything, I stole it from somewhere before hand
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    Well over the weekend I finally managed to finish a conversion I started back in March.

    Khador Devastator/Demolisher warjack with moveable arms to represent the open and closed armoured shell.





    The magnets have proved a little weak on the Demolisher's cannons, they topple over if the jack gets nudged. Just something i need to try and improve on my next plastic kit.

    Now to try and get it painted up over the next month for the Tale of 2014 challenge.
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    Fantastic work man! Much respect for your work on that Jack and the Black Dragons. Keep it up, your one of my biggest inspirations!

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