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    That was one of the cool things at LnL......the basing class. The dude there taught us to use an oven bake clay putty to make our bases. Simple techniques that work great. I'm nearly finish the base on the kraken. "Baked" it last night, and just need to do some clean up work on it today. Hey Ghool, do you think rubbing alcohol will effect the PP resin? They told us to clean the putty after it's baked to be able to paint cleaner, is to brush it with rubbing alcohol. And i'm thinking to make a few pieces to mod the model itself, and don't want to wreck the resin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usbprime View Post
    That was one of the cool things at LnL......the basing class. The dude there taught us to use an oven bake clay putty to make our bases. Simple techniques that work great. I'm nearly finish the base on the kraken. "Baked" it last night, and just need to do some clean up work on it today. Hey Ghool, do you think rubbing alcohol will effect the PP resin? They told us to clean the putty after it's baked to be able to paint cleaner, is to brush it with rubbing alcohol. And i'm thinking to make a few pieces to mod the model itself, and don't want to wreck the resin.
    Nope, it won't do anything to the resin, or the plastic.
    It's not a solvent, so don't worry about it too much.
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    i figured not, but it doesn't hurt to ask before i turn my model into a pile of goo.......

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    Hordes two player box is Legion vs Circle, not a bad deal.. could be reason for me to get more shredders and warspears? lol

    Also Ghool whats the name of the brush you use for two brush blending, the bigger one.
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    I still stand by my statement, "I don't hate Legion, I hate Vynde."

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    It's the same brush I use for painting, just an older, worn out one.
    You can get a #3 for it, but I just clipped the tip off of an old #2.
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    Why do you clip the tip off? I'd hate to clip the tip off a 25$ brush haha.


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    I still stand by my statement, "I don't hate Legion, I hate Vynde."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynde View Post
    Why do you clip the tip off? I'd hate to clip the tip off a 25$ brush haha.
    Because a wider end is easier to blend larger areas with. It was an old brush that was losing it's cool, and a bigger brush is better. Since I didn't want to buy a brush just for blending, I cut the end off of a smaller one.
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    I'm bringing my kit, and my Stormwall this Sunday. I'll be sticking around for a while; the wife is working, and my mom's watching the kids for me.
    So, no flack for taking my sweet-*** time.

    Spenser, if you could bring your iPhone, I'm thinking we might be able to do some recording of the steps to clean up the Stormwall, and some or all of the assembly.
    If you don't have time, don't worry about it.

    I just pitched a 6-8 page article for NQ to Aeryn, and he's digging it. So, I'm not sure how much time I'm going to have to write for Hand Cannon anymore; it might just be all NQ articles from here on out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynde View Post
    Hordes two player box is Legion vs Circle, not a bad deal.. could be reason for me to get more shredders and warspears? lol

    Also Ghool whats the name of the brush you use for two brush blending, the bigger one.
    Vynde, I'll split it with you I want plastic skinwalkers and winter argus plus another warpwolf don't hurt! Mind you who gets the pocket sized rule book those things are ace!

    Or, this might sound crazy but would anyone be interested in doing a tale of four gamers style challenge with me?

    I'm thinking we get a Hordes Starter and a Warmachine Starter and build from there. This is what I'm thinking. Paint it to a very high standard using the techniques Ghool has shown us. Possibly make some cool bases for them.
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    As if we don't have enough models already Dawn The mini book would be nice.......but since i own both books in full size format already.......a 3rd is kind of overkill.

    So for your article ghool, are you going to start it with "Since I nearly swept the painting competitions at LnL......"?

    And you should maybe include Plarzoids quote in there......or one of the "You suck ghool." quotes that are bountiful around the forum.......

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    I agree that we all have tons of models I alone have a metric ton to paint just thought it be cool, it was something Ron said during the painting foundry that kind of inspired it.

    And yes Ghool I can find time to do a video for the Stormwall.
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    Good to hear Ghool, il be down later Sunday and would love some tips on working with Resin, This will be my first larger scale Resin model so im looking forward to learning some new techniques.

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    I now have a stormwall for sale(ghool you've got first dips) as slippyfist has backed out. That or i can always start cygnar..

    Or ebay.. dont forget it comes with an exclusive GOLD card that you only get with prerelease models
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynde View Post
    I now have a stormwall for sale(ghool you've got first dips) as slippyfist has backed out. That or i can always start cygnar..
    Nah, I'll take it. Just give me a bit to get some cash together. The trip left us a little strapped, and I probably won't have enough spending money for it until next month.

    If some one comes up with money for it before then, they can have it. Otherwise, I'd be happy to take it off your hands....gold card and all.
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    So what, slippy is waiting for the MK......or the mammoth?.....or is he starting another faction?

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    Slippy says he might have the money next week :P, first one to pay me gets it. No biased here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynde View Post
    Slippy says he might have the money next week :P, first one to pay me gets it. No biased here
    Yeah, no worries. I have one already. I'm in no rush to get my second. If it's there, sure. If not, I'll get one later.
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    Now im excited to have a Gold Card Carrying Kraken :P Sounds like a club id like to be a part of lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swatcoolice View Post
    Now im excited to have a Gold Card Carrying Kraken :P Sounds like a club id like to be a part of lol
    You are!
    I had to bust the shrink to put it in there...to keep it from getting lost....not because I wanted to check out the parts or anything like that...no way....
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    It's a good idea spence but have my hands full with ret as it is....................so much painting.

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    agreed with bleed on the 4 gamers thing.

    Would like to do like a painting 'league' where we set like weekly goals.


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    I was kind of figuring on monthly goals. We don't have to do it right away but we can chat about it later.
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    Weekly works for me........this week get francine mostly assembled and primed........next week finish assembly and start under basecoat.

    And my gold card is supreme.......

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    Dawnlord i would be into doing something like a tale of 4 gamers and would totally split the battle box with you and take the legion stuff. I don't really care for the mini rule book but we can work something out like split the price in 2 and the one who want the book pays the GST or something like that. Let me know if your interested. As for painting i would like something more like every 2 weeks but i can be flexible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboyempire View Post
    Dawnlord i would be into doing something like a tale of 4 gamers and would totally split the battle box with you and take the legion stuff. I don't really care for the mini rule book but we can work something out like split the price in 2 and the one who want the book pays the GST or something like that. Let me know if your interested. As for painting i would like something more like every 2 weeks but i can be flexible.
    If you're taking the Legion, a Shredder per week is easily do-able.
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    Damn, crap, ****, hell........I must have the worst luck with mispacks.......got 2 of one smoke stack for the kraken, and am short one........I hope they don't make me wait till the retail release of the model to fill out my replacement request.

    Also, that's awesome that only 1 of those was edited.

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    Gah, sorry for not being there last few Sundays :/ I've been busy with swim meets and finals coming up I'll hopefully be there tomorrow though I might leave early/get there late
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graycross View Post
    Gah, sorry for not being there last few Sundays :/ I've been busy with swim meets and finals coming up I'll hopefully be there tomorrow though I might leave early/get there late
    He lives!
    I was wondering if you've beaten Diablo 3 yet.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghool View Post
    He lives!
    I was wondering if you've beaten Diablo 3 yet.....
    Nah, only level 27 Like I said, swim meets and hw don't result in Diablo/Box time
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    bah, swimming is for people who don't want to drown.............well, i'm hoping for a decent turn out today. i would like to get 2 maybe 3 games in today. 25-35 pts would be great.......maybe a 15 also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usbprime View Post
    bah, swimming is for people who don't want to drown.............well, i'm hoping for a decent turn out today. i would like to get 2 maybe 3 games in today. 25-35 pts would be great.......maybe a 15 also.
    I'll be paint-iiiing!
    For you losers that are struggling with two-brush blending, maybe play one less game, and I can show you some tricks.
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    i don't struggle with it........i just don't care as much.......although when i'm getting close to being ready, i'll have to consult you about blending/highlighting the armor plates on Francine. Cloaks and highly textured area's i'm good with, but big flat area's i have problems getting to look nice.

    As i read in a web comic a while back "You paint your models, and i put paint on my models......big difference....."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghool View Post
    I'll be paint-iiiing!
    For you losers that are struggling with two-brush blending, maybe play one less game, and I can show you some tricks.
    Shame I'm gonna miss that. I need as much painting help as I can get!

    Cheers.

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    Hey guys, so for the last few weeks i've been playing a few games at friends houses so when I finally start playing at Sentry Box I won't look like a total scrub with the rules

    One thing I'm wondering though - continuous effects on units with more than 1 model. So lets say I hit some Bane Thralls with a flamethrower and the continuous effect is applied to(how it reads) "the model hit" , since these models don't have hit boxes, does it immediately expire since that model that was hit is removed - OR is the entire unit considered under the effect of the continuous fire until they roll the 1-2 in the maintenance phase? Reading "Spells and effects" , I believe it applies to the entire unit. I just wanted to get this clarified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryage View Post
    Hey guys, so for the last few weeks i've been playing a few games at friends houses so when I finally start playing at Sentry Box I won't look like a total scrub with the rules

    One thing I'm wondering though - continuous effects on units with more than 1 model. So lets say I hit some Bane Thralls with a flamethrower and the continuous effect is applied to(how it reads) "the model hit" , since these models don't have hit boxes, does it immediately expire since that model that was hit is removed - OR is the entire unit considered under the effect of the continuous fire until they roll the 1-2 in the maintenance phase? Reading "Spells and effects" , I believe it applies to the entire unit. I just wanted to get this clarified.

    Cheers!
    It applies to each single model hit. If the entire unit is hit (which is unlikely) then you roll for each single model in the maintenance phase.
    If a 1 or 2 is rolled in the maintenance phase (for each model in the unit under the continuous effect) then no damage roll is made for those particular models.
    If the effect doesn't expire, then the model suffers a POW 12 damage roll.

    If the fire boxes the model in question before the continuous effect is applied, then it doesn't get the continuous effect. Continuous effects are applied on a single model at a time; if one trooper gets hit, and the rest of the unit is not hit, then only that one trooper will suffer the continuous effect, not the entire unit.
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    Had a good time today. I have to have another game against you bleed, it was so close and entertaining.

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    Ah, so flameguard with unit attachment isnt ideal to stack up against simple other infantry but instead something with hit boxes (like jacks or man o wars).

    And quick question vs Khador doom reavers - it says after you kill a model you get to attack another model (with berserk). What if you kill that model with Berserk, does Berserk trigger again and you get to attack again? Seems insane that a single model can wipe out almost an entire unit of infantry if positioned right.

    Guess it's best to stick jacks/shooting units against them if that is the case.

    Cheers! (Thanks for the fast reply Ghool).

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    Berserk attacks trigger other berserk attacks......and you don't have an option to not swing, so if you generate a berserk attack and only friendly models are in range, you must attack them, unless you have special rules. It's one of those special rules that can be great but can also backfire very easily.

    On a side note.......enjoy.......this turned out great.






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    LOVE IT USB! Looks sick!

    And thanks for the tip on the Berserk triggers berserk, and you attack friendlies

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