Ravyn 35pts

[Runic]

Howdy, gonna start playing the Retribution (after playing Cygnar, Mercs, Skorne, Cryx, Circle and Khador over the years) and here is my first list ordered.

Main concern is a Cygnar player in our group who likes to shoot and fall back a lot, and I've gotten tired of trying to be a balls-to-the-wall melee person who gets shot to shreds. Instead I will fight fire with fire.

Ravyn The Eternal Light
+Phoenix
+Discordia
Houseguard Riflemen (10)
Stormfall Archers
Houseguard Heavy Rifle Team
Houseguard Heavy Rifle Team
Mage Hunter Assassin
Mage Hunter Assassin

We play casterkill almost solely in our group, for scenarios I'd probably take Halberdiers. This list should shoot the crap out of his I guess. I can carpetbomb units with the Archers and AOE mow them with Phoenix/Discordia, and wreck high armour with the rifle teams. Maneuvering is taken care of with Ravyn, and the Feat, if used at a good spot should cause some serious damage.

They weren't in stock in any of the stores I use, but I'm gonna replace something from this first list with a maxed Mage Hunter Strikeforce + UA when it's time to get really mean.

[Murkhadh]

lol I love all shooting armies and this list makes me smile. A few tweaks I would make. Mage hunter assasins are WAY better than the heavy rifle team.

I tried really hard to make the heavy rifle team work because I obsolutely LOVE the model. But in the end its only so so. I'd get 2x mha's and drop one of the hrt's

Also stormfalls with ravyn are awesome, I'd bring 2 of those somehow.

on the jack, my vote is the Discordia, I think its all around a better jack. The best spray in the game is really fun on Ravyn's feat turn.

[Runic]

I decided to keep the double rifle teams, but instead I'm dropping the Riflemen Officer & Standard for another Mage Hunter Assassin. The minifeat isn't that good really, a Mage Hunter Assassin will accomplish a lot more than one extra rifle and a crappy minifeat.

I started to think it would be cooler to just keep Discordia in too, just for the sake of diversity. Will probably do just that.

Cheers for the feedback Murkhadh!

[Murkhadh]

I hope you get the rifle team to work for you, I really love the concept and how they look.

I think you will end up removing the houseguard riflemen when your MHSF comes in. Its not that they aren't good, its just that the other stuff in ret out-shines them.

also I almost forgot about Epic Eiryss. She's pretty much hands down the best merc solo in the game, and she's even better for us because when she's with ret she's not a merc she's ret, so things that affect friendly faction (ravyns feat for example) effect her too and she won't shut down your jacks like she does other factions. When I make lists, I pick a caster, put Eiryss in then 2 mage hunter assasins and go from there. If there is something I have to have in and need 2 points, I then take one of the MHA's back out

[Runic]

Indeed, it is the Riflemen who will go when I get the Strike Force, was my original plan. I hate proxying and waiting for a restock, so they shall do meanwhile. Can use them in bigger games again.

I think the Rifle Teams will work well, especially with Snipe on one. Something that pierces armour and shoots that far should keep the enemy Warjacks at bay. Atleast I've found Armourpiercing Ranged Attacks a pain. That damn Hunter keeps wrecking my 'jacks one game after another.

Could you explain in more detail how you've found them not awesome and just okayish? Would be glad to hear it so I can take it into consideration.

[Osito]

The big difference with a jack having armor pierce is that it can boost. The heavy rifle team can't.
If you want to kill more jacks just add in the MHSF they have jack hunter, so they are all boosted damage as well, and with the UA you get 11 shots.

[Murkhadh]

Osito beat me to what I was going to say, the hunter can boost is why he's so good. Now you culd attempt so gimicky stuff with Ravyn's vortex spell to get boosted damage, but its a lot of work to pull off.