New cards arrived

[katadder]

yay got my new cygnar deck and new plastic jack today.
new cards are nice and you even get a quick ref card one with advantages, immunities and weapon qualities on it.
nice one PP.
generally 3-4 of each jack, couple of the solos and one of each unit. could have done with slightly more of unit attachment officers as they have damage but can record that else where anyway.
the plastic jack is smaller than expected but looks good.

[Yoshi]

Just wondering, is there any retribution one too?

[PG_Bearded Dragon]

As far as I know, there will not be* a Retribution deck as all of the Retribution models come with mark 2 cards.

*Not be as in won't be one this month, they have not announced a Retribution deck. Of course there is a possibility of one in the future.

[Hysteresis]

Wow! Where did you order if from to get it so soon? I'm still waiting for my pesky MkII Rulebook to arrive

[katadder]

have to say not keen on the plastic they decided to use, plastic glue isnt working very well, probably have to use superglue which is annoying

[captainspud]

have to say not keen on the plastic they decided to use, plastic glue isnt working very well, probably have to use superglue which is annoying

What's wrong with superglue? It's what you use for every other PPS model, so it shouldn't be much of an adjustment for you to use it here, too.

[Mod_Faultie]

have to say not keen on the plastic they decided to use, plastic glue isnt working very well, probably have to use superglue which is annoying

Plastic glue won't work at all, as this isn' the standard type of plastic used in most models.

[magi]

The company has stated that you will have to use superglue, not plastic glue, as the models are not made from plastic, per se.

[katadder]

What's wrong with superglue? It's what you use for every other PPS model, so it shouldn't be much of an adjustment for you to use it here, too.

didnt have any in the house, thats why its annoying. plus i like GW plastics as they go together so easy due to plastic glue working alot better on normal plastics than superglue does on anything else. plastic glue is also cheaper for more of it so lasts longer too. was hoping for the ease of GW style plastics and instead got this

i have never seen anything said about type of plastic they use either

[TheBigRedMachine]

i have never seen anything said about type of plastic they use either

That was the old forums and an issue of No Quarter that stated that plastic glue won't work. Don't think they stated what type of plastic they use though.

[katadder]

aah, dont get nq. its quite a hard one, looks a bit like forgeworld resin but isnt

[masleth]

I think its polygotapair, actually. Their own formula.

[Shroud]

I was definitely disappointed to hear their plastic doesnt work with plastic glue, but in practice superglue does seem to work really well and fast with these.

[ninjack19]

So about those Cygnar cards: any big changes/addltions for the model rules?

[Ganmeyde]

I think its polygotapair, actually. Their own formula.

As opposed to that terrible GW polywantacracker.

Ugh!

[Humeriousdiscord]

I have found that by far "zap a gap" is the best superglue to use on medals and plastics. It forms a firm and lasting bond and is usefull for filling in the empty spaces that sometimes are present when putting together multipart figures. To speed up the drying process (to nearly instantaneous) I will either use "zipKicker" or testors "superglue accelerant". These are avaible at thewarstore.com but if you have a Michael?s near you they often have 40% of coupons in the Sunday paper and this makes getting zap-a-gap much cheaper, but they don?t sell superglue accelerants. Just my two cents from my experience.

[Ganmeyde]

I have found that by far "zap a gap" is the best superglue to use on medals and plastics. It forms a firm and lasting bond and is usefull for filling in the empty spaces that sometimes are present when putting together multipart figures. To speed up the drying process (to nearly instantaneous) I will either use "zipKicker" or testors "superglue accelerant". These are avaible at thewarstore.com but if you have a Michael?s near you they often have 40% of coupons in the Sunday paper and this makes getting zap-a-gap much cheaper, but they don?t sell superglue accelerants. Just my two cents from my experience.

Saliva and greenstuff also work as accelerants, in my experience. One is free, and the other is $12 for enough that you'll never run out unless you sculpt an Extreme Behemoth from scratch.

[Lexington]

I'm curious - do the Faction Deck cards have the same "gloss" finish that have been seen in some of the newer models (Caine, Versh, the Basher, etc), or are they the same finish as the old ones?

[CT GAMER]

I'm curious - do the Faction Deck cards have the same "gloss" finish that have been seen in some of the newer models (Caine, Versh, the Basher, etc), or are they the same finish as the old ones?

I'm more curious who is selling cards 5+ days prior to street date...

[admanb]

I'm more curious who is selling cards 5+ days prior to street date...

People were getting cards two full weeks prior to street date.

[Dantes]

Many stores got their replacement cards in. The ones they give to customers that buy models that have the old MK1 cards still in them. I suspect that is how many people are getting cards early.

[SoulReclaimer]

Also people who pre-ordered I beleive also got them. I know of someone at Gencon who preordered and thiers arrived.

We just need to wait til Wed

[HandsomeDan]

So I think it was around the time Superiority came out that Privateer released a second set of card decks for Mk1, which were confusingly called, Faction Deck MkII.

I've been warning some of the new players not to buy them. Is there some kind of descriptor on the new packaging I can tell them to look for that makes it obvious that they are the right cards. Does it say 2010 on them for example? Or something?

[katadder]

yes it says 2010 on them, 2010 faction deck, will have a look through the cards to see if can find any differances

[lastspartacus]

So these are available for sale now?

I'm still waiting on a full list of changes. I wanna know if the Talon is 3 points!

[katadder]

only things I can find are trenchers being 6/10 as we already know and trencher chain gun gets rangefinder same as the cannon. dont know if these were already known or not.

[tensteam]

only things I can find are trenchers being 6/10 as we already know and trencher chain gun gets rangefinder same as the cannon. dont know if these were already known or not.

That's news. Is ammo feeder still there? Now the thing might actually hit something even though that's POW10 with static 10" range...

[DemonCalibre]

Something I feel compelled to mention, Zap-a-gap is incrediably nasty stuff, I no longer use it as an accelerant as it will leech through your skin, and isn't good for it.

Green stuff is where it's at, it also improves joints because the puty makes the joins flush because it conforms to the shape of the parts, though go easy on it, for joints that are already flush.

[Rosicrucian]

Something I feel compelled to mention, Zap-a-gap is incrediably nasty stuff, I no longer use it as an accelerant as it will leech through your skin, and isn't good for it.

Green stuff is where it's at, it also improves joints because the puty makes the joins flush because it conforms to the shape of the parts, though go easy on it, for joints that are already flush.

You mean Zip Kicker? Zap-a-gap is basically just cyanoacrylate glue with baking soda mixed in.

[Raven Abaddon]

I think its polygotapair, actually.

That got me laughing.

The cards...the Merc playing seems to have the short end of the stick. Our cards are all over the goddamn place (Allies, the Cygnaran deserters and the Minions)

[somesamurai]

So g.d. is an accepted expletive now?

[PG_Agamemnon]

So g.d. is an accepted expletive now?

Or it got by the sensors.

[Keltheos]

The censors' sensors?

[katadder]

That's news. Is ammo feeder still there? Now the thing might actually hit something even though that's POW10 with static 10" range...

yep it is, no points increase either so made slightly better.

[Creaux]

And these goofy rumors about advance deploying GMCAs? Are they sneaky magic trenchcoat people?

[katadder]

And these goofy rumors about advance deploying GMCAs? Are they sneaky magic trenchcoat people?

didnt notice that, but true rumour, they are sneaky magic trenchcoat people with advance deployment.

[Waaargh]

Are the tier lists in the faction decks? If yes - spoil us!

And are the new units in the pack - Kara Sloan, the storm smith artillery piece?

GIEF!

[katadder]

nope none of that but then kara sloan and stormsmith arty is new for mk2 so you will get the mk2 cards with them when you buy them

[Defenstrator]

only things I can find are trenchers being 6/10 as we already know and trencher chain gun gets rangefinder same as the cannon. dont know if these were already known or not.

That is new. I can't remember, what does rangefinder do again?

[LemmingStampede]

+2 to hit when a loader is in base to base with the gunner.