Got my Cryx Deck today!

[Gargathor]

Why are they so dang expensive then?

1.) Time has passed since the last decks were created, and prices go up over time.

2.) These decks contain more cards than previous decks, as they have at least one more book's worth of models (Legends) to cover.

[gold pants]

man im gonna feel broker than the 10 commandments when this is all over

[McCryx]

Amen to that dude.

-Cheers-

[Malfunction]

Amen to that dude.

-Cheers-

I think we are all feeling it.

Just curious how many people will buy all the faction books? I know I'm saving up to.

[BilesyBelcher]

I dont want to, but I almost feel like I have to. I will either buy all the books, or just all the faction decks. I just dont want to read about other factions beating Cryx in fluff .

[Vhalantru]

They never beat cryx in the fluff. we just decide to give them a temporary break,

[Onimura]

We have the best fluff of most factions...I mean our main warcaster flung himself in to a volcano to prove his faith to his god... how many flame toting Menites have done that?

The problem stems from...six times out of ten Cryx fluff does NOT equal cryx rules...while this is some times a good thing, in the case of the death jack, and the seether, it is also a little aggravating, Drudges...so on but hey we still have the best stories.

Gorshade says " WOOOO HOOO I just took that god's sword whats it do?!?

PTB Reply " It freezes things on contact!!"

Gorshade says " SO wait... I jack a god's sword....and all it does is freeze things on contact?

PTB Reply "Yes...its cool right!"

Goreshade Says "...NO really I 'JACKED', as in 'DE-BOWED' as in Stole from his Motha F****** base after killing his dudes a GOD'S SWORD!"

PTB Reply "Look we know its not much but its hard to surprass a sword that made you a sexy, scantly clad, Elf girl every time you killed some one I mean honestly how are we supposed to pass that?"

Gorshade's Reply "...I'm gonna go get my old sword back!"

[Gorg]

Gorshade says " WOOOO HOOO I just took that god's sword whats it do?!?

PTB Reply " It freezes things on contact!!"

Gorshade says " SO wait... I jack a god's sword....and all it does is freeze things on contact?

PTB Reply "Yes...its cool right!"

Goreshade Says "...NO really I 'JACKED', as in 'DE-BOWED' as in Stole from his Motha F****** base after killing his dudes a GOD'S SWORD!"

PTB Reply "Look we know its not much but its hard to surprass a sword that made you a sexy, scantly clad, Elf girl every time you killed some one I mean honestly how are we supposed to pass that?"

Gorshade's Reply "...I'm gonna go get my old sword back!"

sadly, thats too true. a gods sword thats effect can just be ignored for 1 focus/fury.

maybe in future fluff cryx finally manages to make just one of their plans work. but judging by the fluff so far, its highly unlikely. cryx fluff is just about how does character xy fail this time.

[greenlock]

sadly, thats too true. a gods sword thats effect can just be ignored for 1 focus/fury.

Yeah, because autohitting and focus denial is really not all that usefull. It's not as if the rest of your army will autohit the target either. Wait...

[Onimura]

Yeah, because autohitting and focus denial is really not all that usefull. It's not as if the rest of your army will autohit the target either. Wait...

....yeah there in lies a problem...if I'm smacking something with a GOD'S SWORD...I'm not talking about a priest...not talking about one of the Twin's little Minions...but a GOD'S SWORD I Shouldn't be worried about the rest of my army hitting it...that's like some how grabbing the 'Spear of Destiny'...but unlike the 'Pick of Destiny' that leaves maidens moist and wanting, among other things...the spear freezes them in place so your bro...who your playing wing man for can come in and grab em.

[DemonCalibre]

So your complaint, is because the sword is a gods sword, it should do something more....then automatically apply THE most powerful debuff in the game on a model.

[PG_Jyggdrasil]

Just curious how many people will buy all the faction books? I know I'm saving up to.

I will get all of them, tho maybe not ASAP upon release. I dig the art and fluff of all WM/H factions, even tho I limit my play to a select few.

[PG_Sobek]

I'll probably pick up the Cygnar one in addition to the Cryx one because I've always liked Cygnar for some reason. Even though I don't have an army of them. Heh.

[Ghyrrshyld]

So your complaint, is because the sword is a gods sword, it should do something more....then automatically apply THE most powerful debuff in the game on a model.

That can get shaken off.

Yes, something more. Like something sort of like the Avatar has, that spreads fire to the rest of the guys around the guy hit. Like even a pow 10 cold damage or something, and I didn't care if it hits my own guys. Or, even freezes the other models if the first is destroyed like it used to.

Again, it was another REALLY REALLY COOL effect that got made more bland is all.

[Onimura]

So your complaint, is because the sword is a gods sword, it should do something more....then automatically apply THE most powerful debuff in the game on a model.

No my complaint is that because the weapon is a god's sword, it should do something more interesting, if not out right more horrific, then...well I don't know...the same thing that the VAST majority of Kadorian Magitek allows them to do.

Goreshade says " WOO HOO I got my sword that turns people in to ice cubes!"

Sorcha Says "...yeah thats nice my jack has had something like that for ever now...and so have I...and those guys over there too...I think the five year old making a slushy does too..."

Goreshade Replies. " But...but MINE FREEZES people on contact look!"

*Insert sound of some random man screaming*

Sorcha's reply." Yeah....thats nifty whats that do...one person at a time...hmm" *Insert Icy Gale blast and a couple hundred people screaming as they freeze* "I can do better then that...once but still does your sword do that?"

Goreshade says. "Bah I don't need to do that, I make banes..err no wait...I can remake banes...just let me kill these scrap thralls over here and Ahh-

*insert explosion and swearing undead Elven Vampire*

[Sabin]

I have a couple of the decks as well, shame that the new models are not in it, kind of makes me feel like I wasted money on essentials instead of purchasing something new

[Vondell]

Think I'll just buy the Cryx book and borrow the others from my friends.

[Onimura]

I think at some point...when my wallet doesn't feel like an empty cavern just from buying the cryx cards, and the new Skarr model, that I'll pick up the other faction books, its always helpful to know what the other factions can bring...instead of seeing it suddenly across from you.

[azaminkor]

Argh. The Brutethrall card only has one damage track. Am I wrong that I can field 9 of them in a 1 caster game? Are they not basically up to a small 3 man group that can attach to each mechanithall unit.

[Sabin]

My deck came with multiple brute cards, I think you just need to use one for each brute

[Onimura]

That is a interesting question, can you field up to three brute thralls in a unit? for a field allowance of some nine brutes? or am I being crazy?

[PG_Jyggdrasil]

Onimura - Yes. yes you can.

Got my deck yesterday, going to have my 1st game with it tomorrow. Woot!

[RafiK]

Holy **** that's a kind of surprise!
I was sure that FA:3 means you only can field 3 brutes no matter how many McThralls units you have.
With 9 brutes we have one of the best multi-wound, quasi unit in game. That's an attachement!
I'm going to fall in love

3 min. Mcthralls units + 9 brutes + 2 necrosurgeons = serious opponent's headache for just 20pts.
Wow
I can't believe it.

[ResurrectioN]

22pts to be exact.
There are more serious headaches for that many points (full BK + full BT + Tart).

[RafiK]

You're right my serbian friend but...
...28 hit points vs 106 hit points to fill (is my math ok this time?)
It's quite a bargain.

[Brock_Vilmon]

No my complaint is that because the weapon is a god's sword, it should do something more interesting, if not out right more horrific, then...well I don't know...the same thing that the VAST majority of Kadorian Magitek allows them to do.

Goreshade says " WOO HOO I got my sword that turns people in to ice cubes!"

Sorcha Says "...yeah thats nice my jack has had something like that for ever now...and so have I...and those guys over there too...I think the five year old making a slushy does too..."

Goreshade Replies. " But...but MINE FREEZES people on contact look!"

*Insert sound of some random man screaming*

Sorcha's reply." Yeah....thats nifty whats that do...one person at a time...hmm" *Insert Icy Gale blast and a couple hundred people screaming as they freeze* "I can do better then that...once but still does your sword do that?"

Goreshade says. "Bah I don't need to do that, I make banes..err no wait...I can remake banes...just let me kill these scrap thralls over here and Ahh-

*insert explosion and swearing undead Elven Vampire*

Well, in all fairness, Goreshade isn't a god himself. Therefore, he's not going to benefit from all the nifty powers that its original owner could draw upon.

A new military recruit who picks up the most powerful sniper rifle in the world won't be able to use it as well as say a veteran Marine Recon or Green Beret sniper.

Sorry for continuing to derail this thread. I'm looking forward to picking up both the POM and Cryx decks next payday. Kind of sucks though that some merc cards aren't included.

[vintersbastard]

You know, looking at Goreshade2's model, his problem actually could be that the sword freezes everything over on contact, including Goreshade himself. I guess that's why he's not doing any more impressive, freeze-half-the-world-over stuff like he did in Mk. I. Even undead can learn.

[biohazardjonny]

does boxed mean crit hit or dystroyed?

[Vondell]

"Boxed" refers to having all the damage boxes on a model filled. If the model has only 1 life, then pretty much any damage. A critical hit has nothing to do with it.

[hobgoblin]

Holy **** that's a kind of surprise!
I was sure that FA:3 means you only can field 3 brutes no matter how many McThralls units you have..

Fairly sure you the FA: 3 means 3 separate attachments. Trencher Infantry Rifle Grenadier are FA: 2 but the point cost description up to 3 Grenadiers can be taken which would contradict the FA: 2.

[Vondell]

The FA for an attachment is per unit per caster battle group. So brutes would be up to 3 per unit and if you had 2 casters out, with max thrall units for each caster, then you could have up to 18 brutes on the field.

[biohazardjonny]

"Boxed" refers to having all the damage boxes on a model filled. If the model has only 1 life, then pretty much any damage. A critical hit has nothing to do with it.

ok thanks.

[Sabin]

Holy **** that's a kind of surprise!
I was sure that FA:3 means you only can field 3 brutes no matter how many McThralls units you have.
With 9 brutes we have one of the best multi-wound, quasi unit in game. That's an attachement!
I'm going to fall in love

3 min. Mcthralls units + 9 brutes + 2 necrosurgeons = serious opponent's headache for just 20pts.
Wow
I can't believe it.

I do it with epic goreshade and then sacrifice the mechanithralls and stitch thralls to bring necrosurgeons/brutes back with his feat. Add in some pistol wraiths, the new warwitch solos and a skarlock and you have a regenerating nightmare for your opponent.

[Onimura]

Well, in all fairness, Goreshade isn't a god himself. Therefore, he's not going to benefit from all the nifty powers that its original owner could draw upon.

A new military recruit who picks up the most powerful sniper rifle in the world won't be able to use it as well as say a veteran Marine Recon or Green Beret sniper.

Sorry for continuing to derail this thread. I'm looking forward to picking up both the POM and Cryx decks next payday. Kind of sucks though that some merc cards aren't included.

Granted in fluff terms I can respect that, sure it takes more then x amount of months /weeks to figure out how to use everything on god xyz's sword...that still does not change the fact that there are other weapons out there that do pretty much the same thing, for a whole faction.

Also to be fair I'm not wanting it to say Hit something and roll a ridicules amount dice for damage, as in the case with sniper rifle. I'm thinking the sword is more of some Alien assault rifle, instead of just shooting ice at something, it should shoot a coolant canister that explodes and freezes things in the general area...

I think in all honesty its just the level of blandness, and to some point mediocrity of E-Shade...when looking at his feat, and his spells...the lest they could have done was give him something interesting and inspired for his sword.

And Again, sorry for derailing this.

[RafiK]

(...)then you could have up to 18 brutes on the field.

Sweet Jesus!
What a vision - real nightmare (for opponents )!

Sabin:
Quite nice use of eGoreshade's feat. I was thinking how to use it properly - and that's the idea! And what's best? It seems quite legal
Brutes are for me our best multiwounds. Better than Ogruns despite lower MAT and ARM. I like 2 base melee attacks and much bigger melee dgm output and we can ressurect them!

[PG_Jyggdrasil]

Sweet Jesus!
What a vision - real nightmare (for opponents )!

...and my wallet

[Vhalantru]

hold on with the brutes, doesn't it say in prime that a unit can only have one of each type of attachment?

[DemonCalibre]

Yes, the Attachment is the Brute Attachment.

Which consists of 1 to 3 Brutes

It works like this

Brute Attachements are FA3
A Brute Attachement consists of 1-3 Brutes

So in total if you buy all Brute Attachements, and buy as many Brutes as you can, you can buy 9 Brutes in a given list(but the list must also have 3 squads of mech thralls)

[Vhalantru]

Wow. Thine enemies shall know fear.

[Arkady]

Yeah, please tell me they wised up within the last few weeks and didnt use their stupid card layout any more? (Though I realize they probably are still using it -_-)

Nope, same ugly layout.