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    Default Trench modules for Wrath release event?

    I added a question mark in the title because I'm looking for a way to make trenches which can play the role of the 5'' x 3'' trench templates. The conventional method would be to make a rectangle with or without some extra space on each side for walls and sloping terrain fr easier model placement.

    However, someone suggested adding angeled ends, giving the base a trapezoid outline. While keeping a 5 '' centre line, this makes for angeled trench runs, as opposed to the straight ones you get by using rectangles (as 3d terrain can't be placed on top of each other like paper templates).

    So what do you say, terrainfolks? Would angular ends, say 22,5 degees on each side, be acceptable? Im asking here, because this is more of a question of visual representation than of rules. In the drawing below, the stipled lines mark the 3'' x 5'' base, while the slopes outside the wall are considered to be outside the area covered by the trench rules.
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    I like the idea of the trapezoidal shape. I hadn't seen that before and it seems like a really good idea.
    You could alternate them up and down to make a straight line, put them all the same way to make an arc or curve shape, or you could mix it up for a legit zig-zag pattern. They'd lay out trench lines like this in the war to limit lines of fire should an enemy manage to get up in your trench.



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    Base your template on "standard" 3" by 5" index cards. Do some test positions and then you will have the right angles (and templates) for cutting bases from more sturdy materials.

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    Thanks for your feeback guys. And super drawings, Peanut! It's exactly what I'm aiming at. Photos will come as soon as the work set in motion....

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    That's a great idea. Damn, now I need to do that.

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    what about taking it one step further:

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    so, sections that combine to form a 3x5, but can be swapped out to make other angles? It's a bit more work, but would allow for legal play and variation

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    There was a pretty awesome trench terrain article in one of the NQ's but I just cant figure out which one???
    Ya, I'm from El Paso.

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    i just made this for my trench hq

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    Ugh, the new No Quarter has a feature on unbound scenarios. There's a trench warfare one that has the terrain placement being one command trench per side. After that, players take turns placing fifteen trenches each. Thirty-two damned trenches! No one cares about blast damage! Get that saw cooking!

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    FYI - trenches aren't straight. All it would take is one enemy machine gunner to jump in one end, and he'd be able shoot down the line and toast everyone like fish in a barrel.

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    For that reason I support this idea.
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    Thank you for beautiful links, picture and ideas! Im afraid we're going for the easy route on this.
    Here's an update.

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    Wish I'd seen this before I posted mine! Awesome work!
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    Here's another update on Havres trenches:


    Got 8 more in this state and 10 that needs dry brushing. Then they will get some grass etc.

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    Great work! gives me inspiration to begin work on something similar.

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    Question: What's the length of the opening? I'm curious if the trenches
    I've already built will line up nicely with something similar to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malfred View Post
    Question: What's the length of the opening? I'm curious if the trenches
    I've already built will line up nicely with something similar to this.
    I'm interested in this as well.

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    The trench opening is 3".
    The total length of the side is approximately 6.5".

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    looking really nice, with a great mix of ideas - can't wait to see all these finished trenches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghlod View Post
    The trench opening is 3".
    The opening is in fact around 3,5'', as the trench is 3'' wide, and the opening somewhat angeled (22,5 degrees).
    Here are some pics from our gaming club's workshop, preceeding Ghlod's pic:


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    And the Wrath Event is up and going! With 5 tables, we were unable to avoid the paper templates alltogheter. We tried out some rubber shelf inlays, but it turned out to be too curly, so we ended up using paper templates.

    And here are 20 of the finished trenches compliments from the Oslo Miniature Gaming Club!




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    Man, those are so nice...
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    Consider this idea stolen and modified to accommodate deeper trenches.

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    I'm going to try the hybrid idea posted above (60 degree angle on one side and 90 on the other) so that new trenches work with my old ones
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    i really like these. great job.

    What were these put together on? I"m just wondering if that is plastic card base, or some sort of hardboard you had to cut out..
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    Really great work. I am impressed
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    Deleted as irrelevant (comment on wrong thread)
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    Quote Originally Posted by carnage4u View Post
    i really like these. great job.

    What were these put together on? I"m just wondering if that is plastic card base, or some sort of hardboard you had to cut out..
    I believe it's 2mm hardboard that Havre cut.

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    Shamelessly stole your idea. Thanks a lot for sharing.




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    Those look really good

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    stealing this idea too, planning on cranking out a ton for an event at our lgs. Thanks for the inspiration!

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    amazing job!! (to all the trenches) I now have fantastic ideas to model off of for my Cygnar board.

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    got my motivation on, pics to follow if I can find em and figure out how to post. doing fifty-six for flgs.

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    Whilst we're engaging in thread-romancy... Your work inspired my Circle themed "trenches"

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