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    Default Taryn and gunbunnies, match made in heaven??

    So now that I see her stats and abilities, she just seems to fit so well with a highborne force that is using either dwarf caster. The range assasination potential is just sick.
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    Be more scared of her with ATGM and Mules. "Ok, I shadow fire that jack, shadow fire the guy behind him. Now my Mule can see your caster."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LemmingStampede View Post
    Be more scared of her with ATGM and Mules. "Ok, I shadow fire that jack, shadow fire the guy behind him. Now my Mule can see your caster."
    But what about the same scenario with Thor and the new Avalancher, add in a gunbunny or two and dead caster.
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    Not that this isn't a viable tactic, but you could already do basically the same thing with Fiona and Nonokrian Brand, who despite being an evil thing, will happily work for Highborn. Also the Mariner has the exact same gun as the Avalancher, with the exception that it needs a loader.

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    Nice with Gunners sure, but Blasters don't really need it. Frankly though, it's great with any kind of accurate, dangerous attack. Like say... CRAs.

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    So she can cause targets to cease to be intervening models? That's certainly good, but ATGM Mules already have 16" arcing fire. It's great for direct fire weapons though.

    Fiona may already be able to do it, but this opens the tactic to a lot of people not named Fiona.

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    Such as 10-man CRAs from Highshields, or, God forbid, double tapping 10-man CRAs from long-gunners. Ugh.

    Edit: Anybody notice, however, that she's -1 SPD from regular ATGMs? Seems like she's a bit beefier and slower than the average.

    Must be all those push-ups and squats that mercenaries do..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeDan View Post
    Not that this isn't a viable tactic, but you could already do basically the same thing with Fiona and Nonokrian Brand, who despite being an evil thing, will happily work for Highborn. Also the Mariner has the exact same gun as the Avalancher, with the exception that it needs a loader.
    I mostly brought up the dwarf casters with this tactic because thats what I use. Gorten could also benefit greatly because of his dual handcannon, and it stops you from hiding from madhammer a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeDan View Post
    Not that this isn't a viable tactic, but you could already do basically the same thing with Fiona and Nonokrian Brand, who despite being an evil thing, will happily work for Highborn. Also the Mariner has the exact same gun as the Avalancher, with the exception that it needs a loader.
    One is a caster one is a solo. The benefit of the solo is it can go with many different casters.

    Not needing a loader is pretty huge, and the Avalanceher has much more armor.

    These comparisons are no small comparisons. Same effect... much wider or better application on the new stuff.
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    Well I can't disagree that she does give other casters options.

    Seems to me like the real winners will be Cygnar, who have always had access to Long Gunners, and have casters who have snipe or can let them take another shot.

    But she fills a really nice hole in merc armies, being able to shoot incorporeals when we have no arc nodes and poor access to magic weapons. Though I guess the addition of the ATGMs already helped a little. Still 2 points is a lot less to dedicate to incorporeal insurance than 6 (or did it drop to 5?). I'm fairly terrified of Machine Wraiths, and rightly so given how effective marshalling is, and how vulnerable marshalled 'jacks are to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeDan View Post

    Seems to me like the real winners will be Cygnar, who have always had access to Long Gunners, and have casters who have snipe or can let them take another shot.

    She does not seem to do anything amazing for Cygnar that they cannot already do with other models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeDan View Post
    Seems to me like the real winners will be Cygnar, who have always had access to Long Gunners, and have casters who have snipe or can let them take another shot.
    Shadow Fire's friendly Faction model, so the only thing in a Cygnar force that can benefit is other mercenaries.

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    Yeah, Taryn <3 Mercs.

    Man, could you imagine 3 avalanchers on Durgen's feat turn and Taryn opening a LOS path? Casters will need to stand way the heck back.

    Also, another thing I'm finding with gunmages and Taryn and other ranged heroes like Versh is that I'm really liking the ranked attacks on forgeguard and highshields. Being able to have them up front, providing a nice screen for the squishy solos is quite nice. Now with black Penny, Taryn can even pick off those who run into combat with them without penalty. I'm diggin her rules! (Not so much the model though...kinda wish PP sculpted more slender faces on their ladies, or at least gave them more dynamic hair)


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    looks like alot of fun in an ashlynn list. but as to gunbunnies, the avalancher or even 2 of them shooting through something at that range marshalled under thor will be sweet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelust View Post
    Edit: Anybody notice, however, that she's -1 SPD from regular ATGMs? Seems like she's a bit beefier and slower than the average.
    ...?

    She's the same speed as every ATGM.

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    I think that her, shaw and a Nomad could act as a really solid flank 10pt flank in a Cygnar force.

    Or you could swap the Nomad out for a freebooter, same points and then shaw and Taryn won't get knocked down from tough when in B2B,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Invaderzahn View Post
    I think that her, shaw and a Nomad could act as a really solid flank 10pt flank in a Cygnar force.

    Or you could swap the Nomad out for a freebooter, same points and then shaw and Taryn won't get knocked down from tough when in B2B,
    I was thinking a talon for this duty, stall or slam effect for only 8 pts, and the jack is still tough enough to take a couple shots and survive. Allthough I am always looking for a good place for my beloved talon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitekong View Post
    I was thinking a talon for this duty, stall or slam effect for only 8 pts, and the jack is still tough enough to take a couple shots and survive. Allthough I am always looking for a good place for my beloved talon.
    Same here. I have this beautifully painted talon from my Magnus BB, but he sits back and watches a black primered Renegade #2 swingin around town with Mags.


    I personally think Rutger with a Bucaneer could be the best combo with Taryn.

    Taryn clears a LOS to the caster, Bucaneer uses a boosted roll for his net to KD the caster, and then everything else in your army is firing off shots at a caster on his butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelust View Post
    I personally think Rutger with a Bucaneer could be the best combo with Taryn.

    Taryn clears a LOS to the caster, Bucaneer uses a boosted roll for his net to KD the caster, and then everything else in your army is firing off shots at a caster on his butt.
    I second this notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelust View Post
    I personally think Rutger with a Bucaneer could be the best combo with Taryn.

    Taryn clears a LOS to the caster, Bucaneer uses a boosted roll for his net to KD the caster, and then everything else in your army is firing off shots at a caster on his butt.
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    I second this notion.
    Agreed, that's a pretty decent strike package, especially with the re-roll on the Buccaneer's boosted attack. RAT5+3d6 re-rollable should get whoever needs getting.
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    I can't help thinking a Sniped net would make this easier... Shaw seems to be the weak link in that set up, though giving doodge to Taryn is good.

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    Actually, I don't think you can get a boosted shot with the Buccaneer and use Assault. You can only use one boost or charge so it is either Assault or boosted ranged attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Happy Anarchist View Post
    Actually, I don't think you can get a boosted shot with the Buccaneer and use Assault. You can only use one boost or charge so it is either Assault or boosted ranged attack.
    They aren't saying assault, just net the little bugger. But I third this, the buccaneer is probably my favorite jack to marshal with most things. All it needs is one boost, once a turn and its points are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen_eV View Post
    Shadow Fire's friendly Faction model, so the only thing in a Cygnar force that can benefit is other mercenaries.
    I love it! I keep forgetting MkII has really made a faction of mercs, and now we get to keep some of our own best abilities too ourselves.

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