Typhon with eLylyth??

[Shawndoo44]

Hey guys, I recently came about a problem. I used to run the standard eLylyth net list which had a Typhon in it. I played a couple games and really found my Typhon getting hurt pretty bad before it even got into 8" range for his spray. So I made a new list...
Lylyth, Shadow of Everblight (*5pts)
* Nephilim Bolt Thrower (6pts)
* Ravagore (10pts)
* Ravagore (10pts)
Blighted Nyss Striders (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
* Blighted Nyss Striders Officer & Musician (3pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
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I don't know if adding an extra Ravagore and a Deathstalker was the right choice for taking out the Typhon, and I don't know if maybe I'm just playing him wrong, and he actually is a complete beast instead of an extra Ravagore and Deathstalker... Thanks in advance

[Truxyo]

It honestly never occurred to me to take Typhon with Elyll, he doesn't get anything from her feat. A Ravagore and Deathstalker are the perfect replacement.

[Shawndoo44]

Yeah, that was another problem, her feat was almost completely useless to him.

[Evil ColSanders]

If you want to sit 6" out of your deployment zone the whole game, yes, take out typhon.

[mox5000]

It honestly never occurred to me to take Typhon with Elyll, he doesn't get anything from her feat.

Except for a fourth spray. That's not useful?

And it's not just what eLyl does for him, it's what he does for eLylyth. And that is, he gives her list a credible melee threat to back up her shooting. Otherwise she's flailing in the wind against higher armor. The only problem with him at 35 is the 12 points cost.

[Neutralyze]

typhon is worth it in elylyth's list. her only issue is that at 35 pts youre already strapped for pts so its hard to fit him in and make a balanced list.

[Shawndoo44]

Well, is it worth taking out the second ravagore and the second deathstalker for a Typhon? Because I can, I just don't know if im using the Typhon right at all. I'm sure he's an amazing beast with eLylyth, I just cant figure out how..

[PG_BloodRath]

I played a game with her yesterday against reznik and I wish so much I had brought typhon. Nothing in my army could really crack him camping focus. It took my last ravagor charging in full force and some awesome awesome die rolling to win that game

[Shawndoo44]

So the best choice would to be the Typhon I am assuming, which is fine because now I don't have to buy a Ravagore or another Deathstalker. I will post another thread in the regular LoE Community forums asking for some tactics with Typhon if there isn't already in the stickied threads. If there is, that is the end of my rant. Thanks all who responded!

[Gaspy]

Typon has higher Mat, multiple sprays, a defensive animus (and he gels well with the Ravagore Animus) and can be a legitimate heavy threat. A Ravagore and a Deathstalker will do little to stop an enemy heavy ripping you apart. With Typhon you have a way to deal with a heavy-laden melee rush. Without, you do not. That's why you don't just spam Ravagores.

Alternately, use Raptors as your melee threat.

[themocaw]

Typhon is. . . okay. I'd rather have Raptors because they both benefit from the feat and can fight in melee.

[mox5000]

Typhon is. . . okay. I'd rather have Raptors because they both benefit from the feat and can fight in melee.

Witht their mobility from the light cav move and speed, they easily outrange eLyls control range and usually end up not really getting much out of it. At best they get an additional 4", which is good, but not groundbreaking. They aren't going to crack armor either.

Typhon gains a spray from the feat and can fight even better in melee, so your reasoning actually supports him over the raptors.

[betrayer]

Except for a fourth spray. That's not useful?

And it's not just what eLyl does for him, it's what he does for eLylyth. And that is, he gives her list a credible melee threat to back up her shooting. Otherwise she's flailing in the wind against higher armor. The only problem with him at 35 is the 12 points cost.

Exactly. Typhon helps balance the list. He also offers quite a nice assassination threat of his own. In my last game he got the kill with a charge + spray attack on a Jack who was placed in front of the opponent's caster.

[henderslice]

Just played this list against eVlad tier 3 list with good results:

eLylyth
Typhon
Ravagore
Bolt Thrower
Striders+UA
Forsaken
Shepherd

Bolt thrower kept Drago at bay with Thunderbolt pushing him around. The Striders crushed the IF Pikemen and with Reform they could plink away and fall back to safety. Typhon sprays destroyed the Great Bears in the woods where they thought they were safe. And Ravagore, well, he was just his normal awesome self. On her feat turn (2), most of Vlad's army was dead or really hurting.

[PG_BloodRath]

I played the same list yesterday but I dropped the forsaken for a death stalker. Typhons critical pitch won the game. he grabbed a jack from the wall of jacks and bastions infront of reznik opening los to him allowing me to put pin cushion on him then plunk him a few times the striders finished him off with one big CRA

[henderslice]

I played the same eVlad list in a second game with Kallus.

Kallus
Max. Legionnaires
Max. Swordsmen+UA
Scythean
Ravagore
Deathstalker
2x Spell Martyrs

Popped feat at bottom of turn 1 and the Khador army did a full retreat negating my feat. It was straight caster kill so no scenario wins for me. The Leggos were awesome clogging up things while the Swordsmen charged in a second wave to wipe out a Destroyer and put the hurt on Drago. Ravagore finished Vlad with a charge. MVP were the Leggos for keeping control of the board for pretty much the whole game.

[Shadowtide]

I played a couple games and really found my Typhon getting hurt pretty bad before it even got into 8" range for his spray.

How exactly was Typhon getting hurt before getting into spray range? He should be stealth from shadowpack every turn, and he has high threat range on his sprays.

[Shawndoo44]

Well sometimes there are things that ignore stealth, or get lucky shots, or maybe actually charge me first. I dunno, things happen. Although, its very unlikely most of the time that someone will be able to shoot at a stealthed Typhon.