Wrath of a Mediocre Painter

[Obeisance]

Hah, hi James.

And it's pretty lazy work. =p

[usbprime]

Nice work dude.....i'm digging the drow vibe you've got going on (whether or not that's what you were going for)

[Dawnlord]

Thats some slick looking legion! Like the carapace especially against the grey/black skin, looks very menacing...

[Obeisance]

Thanks guys. There will be an update with a Wraith Engine in the near future. It's about 25% done.

[Obeisance]

I got my Gators done for Kallus last night. I went with purple to tie in with the rest of my Legion. Same bases, same arcs.

[Karchev_the_Terrible]

I got my Gators done for Kallus last night.

Thought if you "wanted infantry you'd still be playing Cryx"? Lol, but in all seriousness, great job man.

[PG_gabbadj]

looking good!

[Obeisance]

Thought if you "wanted infantry you'd still be playing Cryx"? Lol, but in all seriousness, great job man.

Yeah, I know right. lol.

I started Kallus as a bridging caster. To play Legion, learn my stats, use beasts, but still be able to use infantry skills. Then it turned out he was actually a really good lock.

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And thanks guys.

[PG_Agamemnon]

I like the gators.

[Loki_333]

Very nice. Your gators make me feel guilty for getting lazy on my 3rd unit of Posse.

[Obeisance]

I've been playing eVayl of late, as there's a two tournaments in a couple of weeks. First day is altered Highlander and day 2 is Hardcore, separate tourneys with separate prizes. Really looking forward to the events.

Rules for day 1: Highlander, jack/beast, caster/lock, unit, solo. No tiers or faction models only. Additional points can be spend on beasts/jacks. Divide and conquer.

First list is:
pThags
- Carni, Scythean
10 Swordsmen
Forsaken
=25pts

Haven't decided on a second yet. I'll probably bring either a) eVayl to get some more practice or b) eLylyth to scare people into crappy matchups and just play pThags.

Second day, I'm rocking eVayl T4, because it's awesome. Her tiers give me +1 to the start roll, cheaper heavies, Advance Deploy with my solos and flying beasts get +2 SPD turn 1. Angels run 18" turn 1 and I get +1. It's pretty ridiculous. Cheaper heavies means I get 5 heavies and my junk infantry to cram zones and screen.

eVayl
- 2x Ravagore, 2x Angelius, Scythean, Harrier
10 Legionnaires, max Vessel.
2 Shepherds, Martyr.
=50pts

I'm probably going to struggle a bit with time as I'm only 8 games deep with eVayl. But I'm intending on grinding as much practice as I can. It's not that hard.

And the reason for this post? Crappy pictures.




I ended up having to use a different pink/magenta on the robe trim because black or grey just looked weird. Yes, Vayl's eyes are white on purpose. All the Nyss eyes are supposed to look blind. Not completely happy with Vayl.

So I have two weeks to finish 2 Ravagores, a bunch of Lessers for the Vessel, Vessel and Crew, few solos.

[DC23]

Love the title of the thread...loving the models a lot more.

[Kur0n]

I love the purple plates on your first models in the thread.

[Obeisance]

A local story-driven campaign is about to start up and I've been assigned Bethayne. I figured I may as well get her painted.


Still needs some touch ups, more highlighting and basing. Turning out fairly sweet.

Oh and here's my hardcore army. I ended up getting second for painting. Weird.



Better pics later, probably tomorrow if I can find good light.

[tonyzahn]

Your army's coming along nicely. I really like the gold & purple together, especially on Belphagor.

[Wulfenstein]

Army looks sharp!

[Geekly]

I really dig your purple/black purples. I'd planned to use that and it's cool to see it in effect. This is the scheme I'm planning to use. It adds a turquoise color for cloaks and cloth and such but my skin tone will be much lighter. Regardless, your guys look great!


Dudes with armor and cloaks
http://kuler.adobe.com/#themeID/1894920

Beasts
http://kuler.adobe.com/#themeID/1894899

[Obeisance]

Tony and Wulf - Thanks! Yeah, the gold and purple turned out really nice. You just don't see that much of it together as Belphagor is the only beast with armor.

[Warcaster Feiss]

Absolutely love this colour scheme. Shamelessly I'm going to steal it since it's just the darker tone I want for my Legion! (not a fan of the pale colour schemes!).

What's next on your painting bench?

[Obeisance]

Feiss - Thanks man. And pThags is currently on my table. The next tournament is 35/35 and I'm taking eVayl and pThags. In order to do that, I need to finish a Carnivean, Sorceress on Helion.. and whatever I decide for reinforcements. Probably Raptors and a Martyr for pThags, Hex Hunters and a Harrier for eVayl.

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I've been toying with the idea of doing Winter themed Circle for months. More painting project than new army, but I'm sure it'd eventually go that way.

Snow and ice. Beth has this awesome resin byproduct that looks like blue meth. It'd make great glaciers. I'm thinking cold tones across the board. Also want to avoid using too much grey, as my Legion are primarily grey.

Let's take palette. Humans, Warpwolves, Stones and basing.

All fur dark brown.
Light blue as clothing.
All metals in silvers.
I wouldn't have a clue what to use for stone.

I think with basing, I'll go with dark grey stone, brown sand, snow. I might use the cool snowy-looking meadow grass, regardless of the fact it has a spec of yellow.


- just the top side. It's like yellow flowers coated in snow.

And I'm also imposing another restriction on myself- the only GW colors I can use are washes. Probably use Badab as always. P3 and Vallejo are what I want to use- to try to branch out.

So. Ideas? Pictures? Inspire me!

[Obeisance]

So it's done. I literally just ordered 35pts worth of Circle.

Kromac
- Stalker
- Stalker (Pureblood?)
- Gorax
- Wilder
10 Bloodtrackers
Stones
Stones
- Keeper
=35

Definitely going to do a Winter theme. I'm thinking screw the "no GW paints" thing. Trying to decide what sort of palette to work with.

Dark browns for wood.
Ice blue cloth.
Grey or white fur.. not sure what to go with for beasts with two-tone fur.
All metals will be silver.
No idea what to use for stone.
No idea what to use for skin tones.

Basing will be ice, snow, rocks, snowy flowers.
I might do ice blue/black halved arcs for something different.

Thoughts?

[Warcaster Feiss]

That's a really nice starting build for Kromac! Double Stalkers is nice, though I do like the utility that a Pureblood brings. A Feral can be a nice option too, as a second beat-stick, with potentially better ARM (Warping for ARM) than the Stalker, further buffed by Inviolable Resolve.

A friend locally painted his Circle in a winter theme, think he used really cool blue-greys for the cloaks and Warpwolf skin, with cool browns for the fur. You may want to do some google image searching for images of Wolves, since their fur can vary from brown-greys through to creamy whites.

As for stone, I've found two easy enough methods. You can either go for typical 'grey' stone, starting with a dark grey and adding bone as you drybrush up through layers, or you can go for a creamy sandstone, starting with something like Hammerfall Khaki and adding bone as you progress up through the layers. For grey stone, you can really experiment with washes too, I find adding little hints of colour with a little Thraka Green or a little Leviathan Purple (both slightly thinned) can add some nice variation to the stone before tying it all together with a final light drybrush and final light (thinned) wash of black (to make the stone 'grey' again).

Looking forward to seeing some Circle painted

[Obeisance]

Yeah, I've played against Kromac a lot. So I know exactly what's good with him. Though I'm probably gonna take Ghetorix over a second Stalker and the Stone Keeper.

I actually found a scheme that was very close to what I want. Pretty much this, except I wont be using a warm color for the armor plates. No purple. I could go with a dark blue or green instead.



That said.. it's a little too much like my Legion.

[Obeisance]

Perhaps I'll go with a desert/summer theme instead.

White fur.
Silver metals.
An armor tone like orange.

Craggy cork bases, desert yellow to bone, tuft grass, dried leaves.

Anyone have any inspiring Circle schemes?

[Obeisance]

I've started working on my Circle. Messed around with paint schemes and stripped my Pureblood. I'm about 90% sure I like this scheme.



This is at the base colors step, just after I've added Agrax and Cassandora. Still wet, no highlighting. The base is a weird desert yellow/sepia mix that I'm not quite happy with.

What I need, is input on the armor tones. I was thinking gold with black inlay, but the model is already pretty busy with yellow and yellow related tones. Not a fan of the black strap work, either. Maybe a dark grey or something.

I think the base could stand to be darker, too.

Anyone got any suggestions for me?

[Warcaster Feiss]

Gold for the armour would add more 'yellow' to a scheme with yellow related tones as you've said. I'd probably opt for a silvery colour, start with pig iron, drybrush / highlight with quicksilver (or equivalent), then wash with a mix of Blue wash (I'd use Asurmen Blue or whatever it's called now) / Black wash (Badab black or equivalent). I normally go about 1 part blue / 2 parts black, with a little water, to shade but keeping it cool. You could then add in a little purple wash directly into the recesses (according to colour theory, purple is complementary to yellow).

As for the base, I think it looks fine as is though a little plain. I'd probably look to add some tufts, or small patches of a scorched static grass, or maybe even some clump foliage. You can always just put some on the base (without glue) and see if you like the finish before committing to it

P.s. What colours / washes have you used to paint the fabric? I actually like that tone and would like to apply it to my own Circle somewhere

[Obeisance]

Heh, the warpwolf has gone back into the goo and is being stripped again. I screwed up highlighting yellow, tried to fix it and it got too thick. I'm back to the drawing board for schemes.

Second time the poor, poor pureblood has been stripped.

And the yellow was:

Averland Sunset
Wash with Casandora Yellow
Wash with Agrax Earthshade.
There's no highlight step on there.

I use a mix of GW and P3 paints- I'm experimenting with the new stuff.

[Obeisance]

I've been painting the same Pureblood Warpwolf for a week. I have literally stripped him six times, finding myself unhappy with the way it looked.

I finally gave in and resorted to using Badab like on everything else I painted, out of sheer frustration. Another problem was that I used a wet palette constantly, this seems to slowly water down the colors to a degree that make the ratio of water to paint almost unusable. Like, can't replicate exact colors, get even coverage, paint runs where it shouldn't.. etc. I think for detail work I'm going to have to use a tile as well.

So this is the final scheme. Note that not only is the model still wet with Badab, there is zero highlighting.



Fur:
Calthan, Badab, Calthan, Calthan/undecided. Probably Bleached.
Black touchups, Badab, drybrush with a grey/brown. Probably Khemri or Scorched or Eshin Grey.

Cloth:
Mournfang brown, Doombull brown, Badab, Doombull, Doombull/Bleached.

Armor and Trim (done at once)
Hashut Copper, Gnarlock inlay, Gehenna's Gold, neaten up with Gnarlock. Wash with Badab and make sure I get 90% of the badab out of the inlay area. Leaves it with black in the recesses. After that, I plan on adding a Gnarlock/Scorpion (or whatever the new Scorpion is called) mix and wash it back with Thrakka. Or possibly just go straight to Scorpion. Will need to experiment. Final highlight with gold again.

Teeth, Talons:

Khemri Brown, Desert Yellow, Deneb Stone, then use Gryphone Sepia to neaten up/divide any claws.

Eyes:
Unsure. I want to do yellow eyes with black lenses.

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The stone pendant around his neck proposes a challenge. This will have to tie in with whatever scheme I use for the Wolds and Stones.

Basing, I'm thinking Khemri, Desert Yellow, light drybrush of Bleached or Deneb.

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Feel free to suggest Wold and basing colors. =D

[Obeisance]

First stage highlights done. Doombull on browns, Calthan on flesh. He's really starting to come together. =D

[PG_gabbadj]

I think he looks great so far. When the badab black runs out, time to go to army painter washes ;p

[usbprime]

I think he looks great so far. When the badab black runs out, time to go to army painter washes ;p

Even though it takes a bit of work, i've gotten used to the PP inks/washes. You can't apply them in the same fashion of the badab black, etc. but i have grown to prefer them. I'm not fussy of the army painter products in general.....

[PG_gabbadj]

Even though it takes a bit of work, i've gotten used to the PP inks/washes. You can't apply them in the same fashion of the badab black, etc. but i have grown to prefer them. I'm not fussy of the army painter products in general.....

no worries! i just saw some friends models using the new army washes and its pretty much identical to badab black.

[Warcaster Feiss]

Really like how the Pureblood is coming along

The colour scheme isn't too different to what I've used for my Warpwolves, the advantage I found with using the reddish browns you've used for the cloth is that you can vary it quite widely between reddish tones all the way down to more brownish tones whilst still looking coherent.

You'll also be surprised just how much you can mix up the colour schemes across fur etc, but still look coherent with a unifying cloth colour / basing style, so don't stress out too much if the wet palette is making colour matching difficult

[Obeisance]

Ok, the first model in my Circle army is complete. I'm just waiting on some leaves and junk from Secretweapon and it's done.

[Drahzahrg]

I liked you´re Legion stuff but this Pureblood looks awesome. Dont know if you sad it previously but how did you made the skintone on you´re nyss?

[Obeisance]

The pattern is in the first post.

[PG_gabbadj]

looking good!

[Drahzahrg]

Oh sorry....... Thanks for the patterns. I just love the skin tone.

[UmbrellaCorp487]

How dare you.....call yourself mediocre lol, you're anything but! Great work.

[Obeisance]

Trust me, I'm mediocre compared to some of the amazing work out there. I'm just a lazy painter.

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So, update.

I wanted to paint all the Wolds and Constructs like sandstone, so I googled sandstone. And you know what? Sandstone is dumb. The next thought- I want to make it feel like all the constructs are made from the same thing as my bases. So I painted them the same way.

Base in Khemri.
Heavy wetbrush Desert Yellow.
Light wash with Agrax/Devlan.
Drybrush Deneb.
Extreme highlight with Skull.

Not happy with the green part, but it'll do.




Considering that my bases are black/brown pokeballs and the Stones have 360 arcs, I decided I'd paint the bases the colors of my arcs to make it clear and concise what stones belong to what unit. 1/2/3 lines to note model.

I haven't done the Stoneward yet, as I'm still figuring out how I want to handle human flesh.