Spray and Magic Bullet

[Vash Axis]

First off, If anyone knows of a thread where I can find the answer to my question, please reply with a link. Thanks


My question is about how the Magic Bullet spell from Jarl Skuld interacts with a spray attack. I have posted this in the Troll Comm page and have not received a difinitave answer.

Magic Bullet reads:If target friendly Faction model's next normal ranged attack directly hits, after resolving the attck, choose a model within 4"of the model hit. The chosen model suffers an unboostable POW 12 magic damage roll. The point of origin is the model hit. After resolving this damage Magic Bullet expires. Magic Bullet lasts for one turn.

My question is this: Does the spray attack count as a normal ranged attack, and would Magic Bullet trigger off of each model directly hit from the spray. On page 60 of the Primal MkII book under spray attack, it says, "make separate attack "rolls" for each model under the spray template". OR, does each attack roll from the Spray Attack count as its own individual attack and thus making the first attack roll from the spray the "Next normal ranged attack" from JArl's Magic Bullet.

I hope this is clear enough and Thank to anyone who responds for the feedback. It would be great if a few PressGangers or a Mod would post back. wink wink, hint hint.

[Rifta]

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I may be correct in the following. When you make a spray attack you must declare a target for the attack. To me if your spray hits your target you declared then your magic bullet would take effect choosing a model within the 4" of your target. The other targets hit under the spray template wouldn't count as "direct hits" cause they're not your intended targets, much in the way blast damage works with AoE attacks.

So roll to hit your main target, if you hit then I'd say you get the magic bullet, if you miss him then the spell does nothing. Then roll your other targets after.

[Valander]

Let's get some actual text here to examine:

Magic Bullet
If target friendly Faction modelʼs next normal ranged attack directly hits, after resolving the attack choose a model within 4˝ of the model hit. The chosen model suffers an unboostable POW 12 magic damage roll. The point of origin for this damage is the model hit. After resolving this damage roll, Magic Bullet expires. Magic Bullet lasts for one turn.

Here we see the trigger is a ranged attack making a direct hit.

(Last paragraph under Spray Attacks)
Every model hit by a spray attack suffers a direct hit.

So, if you make a successful attack roll on any model under the template, it is directly hit per the quote above. If the attacking model under Magic Bullet makes a direct hit, it triggers Magic Bullet. You will, however, only get one damage roll, but it looks like you can choose any one of the models that were under the spray template as the point of origin for the Magic Bullet.

[Rifta]

Thanks for that clarification Valander. I don't keep my Prime with me at home, it stays at my LGS, so I was just guessing.

[MFWalter]

I think I understand this, but I just wanted to double check.

You would roll ALL spray attacks (Simul) and keep track where the hit models are then pick one of the models on the directly hit list to be the model hit which triggers Magic Bullet?

[Valander]

I think I understand this, but I just wanted to double check.

You would roll ALL spray attacks (Simul) and keep track where the hit models are then pick one of the models on the directly hit list to be the model hit which triggers Magic Bullet?

Yup, that sounds correct to me.

[Vash Axis]

Thanks, this helps.

[TheConstantWay]

That means sprays are considered "normal" ranged attacks?

[vintersbastard]

That means sprays are considered "normal" ranged attacks?

If they're coming from a ranged weapon, yes. Every attack that is not a special attack is a normal attack.

(Note that there are magic attack sprays, as well; hence the reservation in my first sentence.)

[PG_Dino-Czar]

That means sprays are considered "normal" ranged attacks?

Correct. Unless they aren't.

Being range: SP has zero effect whether or not the attack is "normal". What you're looking for in that case is if the spray is the result of a *attack.