I've been playing this game for a few months, and I've got only about 15 games under my belt, but my group is having a tournament in the middle of March. I'm not going into this tournament to do anything more than play my best and have a good time, but the whole thing has gotten me thinking about lists in general and what I should do for tournaments (future ones, mostly).
One thing I've noticed is that people make lists to handle a lot of things you might run into, like:
- Infantry spam
- Incorporeal models
- High DEF
- High ARM
Right now, I don't have any models, outside of warcasters, that have magic weapons. Well, I've got a Koldun Lord in a box somewhere, but that's it right now. For the March tournament, we're allowed to bring two lists, although it's not mandatory. So, first question: Am I going to be totally boned if I run into a list filled with incorporeal models, or will I be able to handle it because I usually get charged first anyway and can simply retaliate in force after the opposing models turn corporeal?
My second question is on off-shoot of this one. Do people put magic weapons into every tournament list they play, or does it depend on the tournament's list rules (e.g., "you have two lists and can't use them back-to-back")? Am I stuck putting Doom Reavers, Aiyana and Holt, a Greylord Ternion, or a Koldun Lord into every list just to stay out of the "horribly boned" zone in a tournament, or even when I show up for casual game night?
Finally, I'd like to hear about the thought process and the levels of thinking that go into picking a list against an opponent in a two-list tournament. For example, let's suppose you have two lists: one list with magic weapons, and one without (or hardly any, maybe a Koldun Lord at most). Your opponent has one list with a lot of incorporeal models but another that has none (or hardly any). Here's the way I think it typically goes:
- If he picks the incorporeal list, and you don't pick the list with the magic weapons, you're boned. Therefore, you can't pick the list with the magic weapons.
- Your opponent, knowing you won't pick the list with magic weapons, is free to pick the list that matches up better with your other list. This could be either list, depending on how your non-MW list is configured and how his two lists are configured. Either way, however, the hole in your list has forced your hand but given more freedom to your opponent.
Is that typical? If so, how do you force the issue so your opponent has to worry about your hard counter more than you have to worry about his? Also, who wins a game of chicken if you each have one list that does horribly against one of the opposing lists? Does one of the items in the problem list trump the others? And does anyone go "level two thinking" and figure, in a scenario similar to that in the example above, that the opponent will guess that you'll avoid the non-MW list, so you can actually pick it knowing that it matches up better with the list you think he'll pick, even at the risk that he'll pick the incorporeal list anyway? (For that matter, does anyone go "level three"?)
Now, for the record, I'm content to play this first tournament with a limited model selection--it's not imperative to me that I rush out and buy some Doom Reavers, for example. That said, I'm going to buy them eventually, so if now seems like a convenient time to add some magic weapons to my collection, that's fine. But do I have to include some in every list? Or anti-Stealth? Or anti-high-DEF-tarpit? It seems that you can't fit everything in at 35 points, and maybe even at 50. (The March tournament will be 35 points.) I understand that there's going to be a big difference between the model selection at a local 20-player tournament and whatever shows up at GenCon in June, but I'm interested in hearing observations about both kinds of tournaments.
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward to learning some stuff here.