SR2012 is up!

[PG_lord tyrant watt]

Head on over to the organized play section of the front page.

or

http://privateerpress.com/files/SR2012Final.pdf

[juckto]

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[Murkhadh]

Think you missed the first part of the link.

[sleet01]

Yes, you accidentally the whole link.

[PG_lord tyrant watt]

Yes, you accidentally the whole link.

I have technological intolerance.

[PG_malfred]

I have technological intolerance.

In Soviet Khador, technology intolerates you!

[Mastershake]

Techonological Interference is better :P

[Sanctjud]

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Time to absorb.

[juckto]

I still don't see it on the "Organised Play" section of the website, but.

[solkan]

It's there. The link at the top of the page still says "Official Steamroller 2011 Rules" but at the bottom of the page is the SR2012Final.pdf link.

[Khador247]

Where is the dislike button?

[MagnustheJust]

Huzzah!!

Maybe now some of the locals will stop asking me about it!!

[Falkman]

Where is the dislike button?

I gotta agree, this looks pretty bad compared to SR2011. Will definitely keep using SR2011 at my local tournaments.

[watchgeorgerock]

So a jack that comes in with reinforcements starts with 3 focus. Pretty rad

[Vex]

So, after all the secrecy and play testing, it is pretty much the same as the initial version. Over-complicated (and too many) scenarios, awkward reinforcement rules, character restrictions, and restrictive turn times. Do not like.

[Areneas]

Watt cast Trainwreck on himself and Beat Back'd all the way to the Juicy PDF Goodness.

[Loki77515]

So, after all the secrecy and play testing, it is pretty much the same as the initial version. Over-complicated (and too many) scenarios, awkward reinforcement rules, character restrictions, and restrictive turn times. Do not like.

Character restrictions and turn times are optional, no? So if enough people in a store don't like it they don't need to play it that way.

[correlation2]

So is the Ambush ability still completely useless in SR?

[JacobtheAussie]

So should we ask questions here or in the rules forum when it comes to the SR2012 scenarios?

i.e. #3 – Overrun (Center Scenario) if your Warcaster is outside the killbox but would gain the second control point which triggers first since they both are checked on the end of the players turn?

[JacobtheAussie]

So is the Ambush ability still completely useless in SR?

Reinforements have a limited board edge to arrive on, Ambush gets a much larger area and can be larger than the limited reinforcement points

[correlation2]

.....Okay.

So it's not like you just have to deploy them in your initial forces anymore? I seem to remember radial deployment saying the two "sides" were belonging to both players. ( so Ambush couldn't physically be used at all )

[blitzmonkey]

.....Okay.

So it's not like you just have to deploy them in your initial forces anymore? I seem to remember radial deployment saying the two "sides" were belonging to both players. ( so Ambush couldn't physically be used at all )

They took away character restrictions as mandatory and made it optional. Yuck. Reinforcements are the devil. I really like a lot of the new SR2012, but for everything I like about it, I also hate something about it.

[Jakal]

They took away character restrictions as mandatory and made it optional.

character restrictions are still the default aren't they?

[Trygle]

Character restrictions are on by default still.

What are you talking about. The only character we lose is Typhon :P

[Blaque]

Seems pretty similar to what I saw of the beta. Note that character restrictions are still there, just that it isn't by-character but by-version of a character. So, for instnace, your lists could include Eiryss1 in one list, Eiryss 2 in another, but then you are tapped-out on Eiryss for the rest of any lists you have. This is what it was all of the SR2012 Beta.

Time limits are a bit worrisome, but it should be noted that a lot of major conventions used "accelrated turns". Those are now simply the baseline.

As a random personal like, the document looks cleaner. ANd I like the look of the objective cards in the back.

And stuff.

[Ragged]

On page 8 of the pdf player 1 has 2 AD zones.

[zor]

I like the last page of it. That will be laminated and put in my bag for sure. Otherwise just cleaner than it looked previously.

[Triumph Of Man]

Thanks Watt.

[Antigonus]

I see the restriction on IKRPG models is still in place...

[Ganso]

I have to say, I don't see the added "complications" people have been complaining about.

[sleet01]

The Modern Warfare restriction variant sounds interesting, but who would actually brave the wrath of their player base to run a tournament with it?

[Gavriel]

Character restrictions don't apply across the epic line, that was my only problem with it. Looking forward to not having to face the B13, Withershadow Combine, Avatar, and Eiryss in literally every list I play against this year.

Scenarios are pretty complicated, but I see less of the "I play eDenegrah, I'll take your concession now" coming up in the scenarios this time around. Also it's not always a no brainer to want to go first anymore. Several scenarios are more beneficial to the player going second. Hoping to see the faction composition and rankings at tourneys change as a result of this.

[Hjelmen0]

Hm, so, the restriction that stipulates that models with Companion cannot be reinforcements has been removed, but reinforcement models cannot be bonded. Does this mean that Lesser Warlocks are still not eligble as reinforcements?

[UBomb]

So is it me or is this the worst SR to date?

[scout's honor]

So is it me or is this the worst SR to date?

I may not like all the changes, but I usually try to give changes the benefit of the doubt until I've properly tried them. If nothing else, they prevent the meta from getting stuck in its ways. So for now, I say it's you.

[Triumph Of Man]

So is it me or is this the worst SR to date?

I like it much more.

[scout's honor]

Hm, so, the restriction that stipulates that models with Companion cannot be reinforcements has been removed, but reinforcement models cannot be bonded. Does this mean that Lesser Warlocks are still not eligble as reinforcements?

I think they mean "bonded to a warnoun" rather than bonded in general, but that would need clarification.

[Max Teranous]

There is no DEF value on any of the interactive objectives, what is it supposed to be?

(Beta doc took the objective rules from the rulebook that stated the DEF was 5, but this final doc does not refer to those rules at all, so we need the DEF on the card)

Cheers,

Max

[Khaunshar]

The Modern Warfare restriction variant sounds interesting, but who would actually brave the wrath of their player base to run a tournament with it?

I concur, and will try and push that for a local event, too! It ll be a modern-warfare, reinforcements mandatory, only new scenarios thing, just to see how much of a different gameplay experience we can create! After all, diversity is important.

[PG_malfred]

The Modern Warfare restriction variant sounds interesting, but who would actually brave the wrath of their player base to run a tournament with it?

Simple. I'd ask who would be interested in playing it and then run it.