Steamroller Thoughts/Advice

[InnerDarkside]

So, I'm playing in a 35 point 2 list steamroller 2011 tournament on sunday, And, As my first tournament, I thought I best get some advice from my fine Komrades!

I have access to;

Casters

pSorcha
pButcher
Harkevich
Old Witch

Units

WGI Deathstar
MoW Shockies
MoW Demo Corp
WGI Mortar
Widowmakers
Greylord Ternions
Great Bears

Solos

Wyshnalyrr
eEiryss
Widowmaker Marksman
Kovnik Joe
Yuri
2x Manhunter
Aiyana and Holt
Wardog

'Jack

Kodiak
Juggernaut
Destroyer
Plastic 'jack kit, Magnetized
Devestator
2x Spriggan
2x Berserker

With that taken into consideration, My thoughts for 2 lists, so far, Are as follows

List 1;

Old Witch +3
-Spriggan -10

WGI Max -6
3x Rocketeer -3
UA -2
Kovnik Joe -2
Great Bears -5
eEiryss -3
Yuri The Axe -3
2x Manhunter -4

This I am fairly comfortable with, Tend to revolve around taking second turn, Running scrappy, Unseenpathing to him with the witch and popping feat, Then picking my fights as they panic to get back into position, So far, not lost a game in this manner with the list, Though I thought taking first, And popping feat on my T2 may be better,



List 2;

pSorcha +5
-Destroyer - 9
-Destroyer - 9

Widowmakers -4
Marksman -2
WGI Mortar -3
Great Bears -5
eEiryss -3
Wysnalyrr -2
Yuri The Axe -3

This one i'm less sure on, But I plan to only run it once, and only vs a Warmachine matchup, And go for simple pop feat, shoot caster until they die or I do, Possibly dropping tempest on anything blocking LoS to let the windowmakers join the fun

Any thoughts or advice would be greatly apreciated!

[SuperTheBoss]

I like Yuri with pSorsha because Fog of War let's him run around wherever he wants with high DEF. I'm curious as to why you want to bring 2 demolishers with Sorsha. Not saying it's a bad idea. Just not necessarily what I would go with.

[InnerDarkside]

Pretty much as a poor mans behemoth, Though i'm open to switching it to a decimator, That is very much the list i'm unsure of though, Arcing fire struck me as a good way to win quickly, and get that game out of the way and done with quickly

[SuperTheBoss]

It can definitely work. Especially if you move Sorsha up to get LoS on their caster and pop her feat, hitting with a bunch of Arcing fire from backfield can cause some problems for your opponent, although at that point most of my caster-kills are at the hands of Sorsha herself charging 14" around a corner. What's the POW on the Demolisher's guns?

[InnerDarkside]

Destro is Pow 14 range 14, Deci is Pow 15, range 10 RoF 2 I believe, Makes me think one of each is possibly a better choice if I can get the deci LoS

[SuperTheBoss]

Well I would be hesitant to take 2 of the same 'Jack personally, but a lot of people would disagree with me. I haven't played with either, but I like them both on paper. The Decimator is also better in melee I believe for what it's worth. You may want to consider a Spriggan if you're already cool with spending 20 pts on 2 'jacks. With all the widowmakers and marksman and such it could be really useful to be able to get rid of stealth/camouflage depending on what kind of list you end up playing against.

[InnerDarkside]

I was considering a spriggan, But it doesnt do alot to help on feat turn, Aside from the potential charge, Which can't really be relied upon, Keeping in mind that list will be used exclusively for one game, In which ill be looking purely for the assassination

[SuperTheBoss]

Well, Spriggan does still have arcing fire on his two grenade launchers, but if that's all you want to use it for then the Demolisher, Destroyer or Decimater are all possibly better ranged options. I like Spriggan for bulldoze+reach+mat8 on the charge, which makes it a great melee assassination 'jack. I think regardless of what your second 'jack is though, one demolisher and a mortar should be plenty of arcing fire to take out any frozen caster.

[InnerDarkside]

Looks like i'ma have to play some games to test this out, Cheers Any thoughts on the first list?

[SuperTheBoss]

I haven't played with the Old Witch at all, so I can't really say from experience, but for what it's worth, she's the next model I'm planning on picking up and I like her a lot. It looks like a pretty solid list. Sounds like you've had a lot of success with it so I think you would know better than I would. I'm not a big fan of WGI in general, but do you find that they work well with the old witch?

[Hoc Est Bellum]

Demo is Pow 14 range 14, Deci is Pow 15, range 14 RoF 2 I believe, Makes me think one of each is possibly a better choice if I can get the deci LoS

Demolisher = 2x POW 15 Range 8 blast weapon,

Decimator = POW15 Range 10 RoF2, no blast

Destroyer = POW14 Range 14, blast, arcing fire

They're also all 9pts, not 10 as you have listed

[InnerDarkside]

Woops, Thats very true, I'll amend the lists Cheers