Colossals for Minions?

[Landero]

This just in, new Gator Warlock has mechanikal limbs.

[Bob of Doom]

Where'd you hear that?

[zionson]

A BE for the gators and a colossal for the Farrow.

The Gators got the love in Domination. I'd like to see some pig love in the next book.

[Vranz]

Or the colossal is neither from Blindwater or Thornfall. Giant from Bemoth?

[Gdead909]

Giant + Bear Parts + Pig

Manbearpig.

BTW this is just epic!

[PG_Dmark]

We get eTarg. Targ is "special".

[Landero]

We get eTarg. Targ is "special".

Tactical Tip: You just bought a model you can't use, Problem?

[Jake the Dog]

Pig with Gills.

A Pig and Snapjaw got in love....

[drachenfels]

Pig with Gills.

A Pig and Snapjaw got in love....

Snaprine???

[Stephan Garmark]

I'd just like the colossal to be a Swamp Horror, as it's depicted. A swamp horror spawning queen

[Reemule]

I would venture a guess that minions will see:

1 either a battle engine that can be built 2 ways to be either a pig engine, or a gator engine,

or

Most likely a Gator BE. and nothing for the pigs.

[Azahul]

You mean Colossal, right? Because I rather think it's likely that the pigs will get a BE and the Gators won't...

[Jake the Dog]

I remember this as well but for the life of me i cannot remember the source.

A source would be useful.

[Sellsword]

I am stoked about the options of either a BE or a Colossal, but I definitely don't want a "generic" can be used by either side. I can totally understand from a production stand point why that idea would look good, but Blindwater and Thornfall are so thematically different that I just can't envision any model that would suit both that I would be interested in purchasing.

[iveysdad]

i think as a gator player, we are really limited to what a battle engine could even be for us. we could get a giant coffin with gatormen in it with spears or something... maybe a giant turtle creature like in never ending story... where as the farrow could have catapults and massive guns of war or anything...

[Decade]

Dr. Arkadus's most terrifying creation: Porktron. The massive beast is formed from five of his augmented farrow, two road hogs forming the legs, two warhogs forming the arms, and one unique beast forming the torso and head. Its weapon is a massive cleaver that it forms by slamming its "hands" together. And of course, it must have abomination.

[zionson]

Dr. Arkadus's most terrifying creation: Porktron. The massive beast is formed from five of his augmented farrow, two road hogs forming the legs, two warhogs forming the arms, and one unique beast forming the torso and head. Its weapon is a massive cleaver that it forms by slamming its "hands" together. And of course, it must have abomination.

Ooh, this would be INSANE.

You could split it up into five heavies after it takes X amount of damage, similar to Dragoons. Haha. OMG this would be so awesome. Or you could play them as five heavies and form a giant Porktron as a * action. DROOL.

[MagnustheJust]

Honestly folks...

Minions are such a small market share overall for PP, that you are just deluding yourself down Disappointment Boulevard if you think there will be a pact specific battle engine or colossal.

I'm not trying to flame or insult anyone here, just trying to keep a modicum of reality. Both of these will be generic for Minions as a whole - believe me.

[Decade]

Honestly folks...

Minions are such a small market share overall for PP, that you are just deluding yourself down Disappointment Boulevard if you think there will be a pact specific battle engine or colossal.

I'm not trying to flame or insult anyone here, just trying to keep a modicum of reality. Both of these will be generic for Minions as a whole - believe me.

I don't expect a colossal for Minions, but its fun to come up with zany ideas. Besides, we don't have the kind of fury management that you'd need to run a colossal.

[Space Donkey]

Honestly folks...

Minions are such a small market share overall for PP, that you are just deluding yourself down Disappointment Boulevard if you think there will be a pact specific battle engine or colossal.

I'm not trying to flame or insult anyone here, just trying to keep a modicum of reality. Both of these will be generic for Minions as a whole - believe me.

While I think that the probability is high that both will be generic I can see justification behind PP releasing pact specific. Right now a large number of "Minion" players are actually Blindwater or Thornfall players. By releasing a Blindwater Colossal and a Thornfall Battle Engine, or vice verse, with amazing rules PP would tempt Minion players to be more like most Merc players and cross that pact line.

EDIT:

I don't expect a colossal for Minions, but its fun to come up with zany ideas. Besides, we don't have the kind of fury management that you'd need to run a colossal.

What is this Fury management that you speak of? Strategic Frenzying is all the management we need.

[zionson]

Honestly folks...

Minions are such a small market share overall for PP, that you are just deluding yourself down Disappointment Boulevard if you think there will be a pact specific battle engine or colossal.

I'm not trying to flame or insult anyone here, just trying to keep a modicum of reality. Both of these will be generic for Minions as a whole - believe me.

I'm inclined to agree with you. But as long as we keep that perspective in mind, it won't hurt to dream.

Come on, people, it's PORKTRON!

[Decade]

What is this Fury management that you speak of? Strategic Frenzying is all the management we need.

That's fine when you've got a munch of smaller beasts, but if you've got a colossal frenzying, your out a 18-20pt model, while getting only 1 attack out of it.

[mortal]

Could be something like these, found it on the gatormen artists page:

[Space Donkey]

That's fine when you've got a munch of smaller beasts, but if you've got a colossal frenzying, your out a 18-20pt model, while getting only 1 attack out of it.

We don't know if they have different rules for frenzy yet though? Most likely they will be the same, but they could be different for Colossals. Or it could be a construct, then you don't have to worry about Frenzy at all.

As to the pictures, I am very, very, very disturbed by what is between the legs of the Trog-like thing.

[Sellsword]

While I think that the probability is high that both will be generic I can see justification behind PP releasing pact specific. Right now a large number of "Minion" players are actually Blindwater or Thornfall players. By releasing a Blindwater Colossal and a Thornfall Battle Engine, or vice verse, with amazing rules PP would tempt Minion players to be more like most Merc players and cross that pact line.

EDIT:

What is this Fury management that you speak of? Strategic Frenzying is all the management we need.

I think I would also prefer that arrangement, I would rather have one thematic model that blends with my army and lose out on the other type of model choice than have to put up with two generic models that I wouldn't field due to lack of cohesion in my army theme. That's just me, but if the models are "generic" minion and don't blend well, I won't purchase them.

[Benejeseret]

I hope they can frenzy and otherwise count as beasts.

Dr. A needs something to get him back in the game. With the expected high Strength Primal Shock would be scary, Forced Evolution would be horror-show, and getting off unexpected Alpha-striked with a free charge/frenzy would make anyones game, and then he can still heal it 1d4+1 per turn.

Then there is Targ. If a Colossal is a Warbeast, then he can get off Ancillary Attacks or heal it to keep it going.

For Carver, getting Batten-Down and Mobility on a Colossal...very nice
BUT - if it is any sort of generic monster then his Feat may not work on it as only FARROW are affected.

[zionson]

I hope they can frenzy and otherwise count as beasts.

Dr. A needs something to get him back in the game. With the expected high Strength Primal Shock would be scary, Forced Evolution would be horror-show, and getting off unexpected Alpha-striked with a free charge/frenzy would make anyones game, and then he can still heal it 1d4+1 per turn.

Then there is Targ. If a Colossal is a Warbeast, then he can get off Ancillary Attacks or heal it to keep it going.

For Carver, getting Batten-Down and Mobility on a Colossal...very nice
BUT - if it is any sort of generic monster then his Feat may not work on it as only FARROW are affected.

The Farrow need a damned good beast. With only three to choose from (currently two for tourneys), it's still an uphill battle.

Frankly, I don't care much about the stats ... I just want to see a GIANT PIG.

[RevolverAdamska]

Porktron > Any other idea/name.
May be farrow just need another years to get 2 good light warbeast , 1 more heavy and stop lack of Hordes core , animi.

[MagnustheJust]

Well kiddies...

After seen the price tag on the electric chicken's colossal, I will not not be getting either the Merc or Minion one. While there is a certain coolness factor to them, I personally am not willing to shell out that much for one model. $135.00US is just a bit too steep for me...

[drazz00]

$135 certainly helps me make the decision to focus on only two factions.

Still, I don;t see the Minions getting any giant beast for a while.

[Hoyled]

Ouch thats pricy. For me that puts the model on the verge of being unpurchasable. If its pigs only or generic Im likely not going to buy it. If its Gators, it fills a hole the army needs filled and it looks awesome then Ill dip into the rainy day savings for one. Two isnt happening.

[zionson]

If it's a giant pig on a 120mm base, I'm buying full FA:2.

come on, PP, make it happen.

[MagnustheJust]

You are setting yourself up for a mighty big disappointment if you believe that the BE & the C for Minions will not be generic...

[Hoyled]

If its generic Im 80 percent less likely to buy it. Saves money for the 3-4 Blindwater releases and maybe a pig model or two.

I will still be greatly dissapointed if its generic. Can't be helped really.

[iveysdad]

save your disappointment for after the model is released. it may be really cool and have interchangeable parts or something to make it faction oriented. just wait and see.

[zionson]

It's simple. If it's NOT a pig, I'm not buying it. Right now, since NOTHING has been announced, we're free to dream.

[Halfhoot]

How much have you spent already on this hobby Magnus?

To me the price point just says instead of being an auto-buy... it'll have to have really good rules to go with.

[Hoyled]

Ahh Im only kidding myself. Generic, Farrow or Gator, Ill buy one, and ill love him and hug him and call him Sir Santiago the Spinecrusher.

[Vicomte Athos]

This is how I see it going down.

Pigs get the Battle Engine, it's a giant chariot/wagon like the Gun Carraige or the War Wagon, it's pulled by two large boars, has a pair of big cannons on the back and a few brigands with Pig Irons. Cavalry Rules, momentum guns and some small arms. Usable by Trolls, Circle and Thronfall.

Gators get a Giant swamp monster probably a rivermonster or some ancient old evil from deep in the swamps. Probably something like Keiricoc-cro. Most likely critical devour, snacking, maybe pitch in there somewhere.

I am also putting a fair bet on that collassals/gargantuans won't b able to be marshalled/junior/wrongeye controlled.

Though i still secretly want a Bullette.

[OmegaLolrus]

Heh, now I'm imagining you fielding it with say... Wrong Eye as its master and one good damage roll later... BOOM, 29ish points gone off the table in one shot.