So, while we obviously don't know what any colossal actually does, we have hints and suggestions and some actual stats (galleon's boxes) to work with.
We know they get focus, we know they function mostly like warjacks.
While there are certain things we don't know (like the nature of superstructure weapons and the real PS on the fists) we can sorta fill in a lot of the gaps.
So why am I here on the Cygnar forum talking about Stormwall instead of the other 3 Warmachine factions I play?
Well, first, because I feel it's the easiest to get a good impression of, second because I'm probably starting Cygnar next.
So, the idea is like this; some things we know about colossals, some things we can only guess. However, a lot of things we don't know for certain, but we have a pretty good idea what they could be. For example, the Stormwall has a pair of chainguns. Whether those are normal chainguns or the heavier Metal Storm guns, we can generally lay odds that it's probably one of the two. There isn't much reason for it to be any more powerful or less powerful than either of those two. So it's a safe bet that's what they are.
Also, I wanted to bring up a point of 'value' about the weapons. It's not so much a matter of predicting -exactly- what the Stormwall does, so much as predicting what -sort- of things it does, to get a snapshot of what it's probably like. For example, the large cannons on its shoulders. Those could be Heavy Barrels. Maybe, maybe not. But odds are, given the rest of the armament, it's probably the sort of weapon you could slap on an ironclad chassis and call it a 9 point 'jack. So heavy barrel or no, it's probably about the same -value- as a heavy barrel. So for speculation purposes it may as well be a heavy barrel. Maybe the actual guns will be Heavy Barrels with -2 range but AoE 3 or something (so what a Ravagore fires). Still just as good.
So anyways, here's the Stormwall (speculation version)
Damage Grid (same as Galleon)
Colossal - (Basically says it's a warjack in all regards, except because it's a colossal it has the special damage grid, L/R arcs, new power attacks, etc, etc. Same as lights and heavies are different classifications but are still warjacks. Can be allocated 5 focus. Has all the same relevant rules battle engines, have; Huge Base, Pre-deployment, Massive, etc, etc.
Has Weapon Platform, Gunfighter, and Virtuoso. Or some unique rule that combines all three similar to how the Behemoth works.
Big Knuckle x2 PS18
Special rule where it can only attack in its relevant arc.
Heavy Barrel x2 - Same as a Defender, but can also only fire in its own arc.
Metal Storm/Chaingun x2 - This could be either-or, really. Is not restricted to arc and can fire anywhere in the front arc.
Thingie launcher - Given that in the video they show this while talking about the colossal superstructures, I'd imagine this is a weapon and is linked to the storm chambers on its back(as the stormwall also has smokestacks, suggesting it's either not running on electricity at all, or it's some kind of hybrid). What it does? No idea, so I'm going to ignore it. It's a wildcard for this experiment.
And here's some reasoning behind the details.
The stats - I see no reason why they'd differ much from a conventional warjack outside of strength. I figured a compromise between the armor of the centurion chassis and the stats of the normal ironclad chassis fit well. Or more accurately, I figured the colossals would be the stats of their faction's prime heavy, just with -1 defense and +1 armor and a lot more strength.
The damage grid - if you look at a Freebooter right now and compare it to an Ironclad, one thing might stand out; they have the exact same damage grid. Chances are that the Stormwall won't be too far off from the Galleon.
The points - we know 18-20. Given Cygnar's warjack range, I'm expecting that it would not be the cheapest, nor would it be the most expensive. So obviously in a 3point range of 18-20, that places it at 19.
the Chainguns - The nature of the weapon suggests that it's a point-defense weapon, like what ships use against smaller targets, which would imply that the Chaingun (being 2d6 shots) would be more valuable. However, they look pretty big, so maybe they're Metal Storms, though having dual covering fire would be a bit bonkers, but I'll get to that later.
the heavy barrels - Again, I don't think this is too far off the mark from how they look. If they aren't heavy barrels, then they're probably something close to heavy barrels or comparable in value to a heavy barrel overall. In other words, I would imagine the stats would be far closer to the defender's heavy barrel then to, say, the avenger's seismic cannon. Also, it seems to have AoE at least partially covered in the chainguns, so I'd imagine those big shoulder cannons are the Stormwall's ranged 'business end', which also fits the heavy barrel.
PS 18 fists - Look at the NQ thread to see a Stormwall turning a cryxan warjack into an oily smear with it's 'jack-sized fist. It's safe to say that while they probably aren't totally crazy, they probably are well within heavy-'jack-smashing PS range. 18-19 is my guess, 18 seems more likely specifically in Cygnar's case. Maybe 19 for the Judicator and Conquest. Probably 17 for the Galleon and Hyperion.
having all the battle engine rules - when you look at them, most of these rules aren't necessicarily something that's innate to a battle engine so much as innate to something really really big. So for the most part, I don't see much logic behind many of these rules being on battle engines, but not having a reason to be on a colossal. The exception to this is the knock-down immunity. I can understand it being a bit odd to knock over a tank (much less stand one up again), but it seems logical that colossals can fall over just like a warjack.
Counting as a warjack - I know some people bring up points like how broken it'd be to fully-repair it on Darius's feat, etc, etc. But realistically, a single colossal is still fewer hit boxes than two individual warjacks for the same cost. The overall number of boxes coming back isn't too radical. Not game breaking anyways. Not enough to justify special counter-synergy rules. Some feats and stuff might be errata'd, but I don't think the restrictions will be on the colossal-side of things.
Virtuoso/gunfighter thing - Look at the Judicator picture. Blasting away missiles and crushing something in a fist. Look at the Kraken. Flailing its tentacles around while firing away it's laser-gun-thing. Most of all, look at that NQ picture I mentioned where the stormwall is crushing a cryx 'jack. What else is it doing? Firing every. single. gun. it has. Three pictures show colossals firing and fighting, so either PP is taking artistic liberties that they haven't before, or the colossals can actually do all that. Naturally since its depicted fighting in melee while shooting, Weapon Platform makes sense too.
5 Focus - This is baseless, really. Not so much that it'll have a higher focus stat so much as the exact number 5. I think that with the sheer quantity of shots it can make, 3 focus will never be enough. It just doesn't strike me as logical for something that big. Why 5? Because it's high enough to make a difference, but still less than 2 individual heavies.
So bringing this all together... Part of the reason I did this was to lay down some reasonable (in my opinion) ideas of what we'll be looking at for the overall power of a colossal. I also feel that these sorts of stats/abilities/weapons are what most people are probably expecting at a bare minimum. Why put it together? To compare it to normal warjacks, obviously.
Specifically; Let's assume that the chainguns are normal chainguns. If you wanted that sort of firepower in the current arsenal, that'd be 2 Sentinels, and 2 defenders. That's 26 points. So assuming the Stormwall is 19 (heck we can even assume it's 20), it's already doing the offensive job of all those 'jacks together, and still has that storm-thingie on top of that, as well as some scary melee power, and the ability to fire while engaged. So basically it's better. 100% better in pretty much every regard except for spreading out the firepower. However, on the defensive side, it's got about half the overall boxes of 2 sentinels and 2 defenders, as well as the sentinels and defenders having some unique rules like shield guard and the cortex hammer. But at a 6+ point difference, the Stormwall's offensive profile is still absolutely staggering.
If those chainguns are Metal Storms, then the comparison is even more slanted in the Stormwall's favor.
So next point of interest; assuming it's got something like a pair of heavy barrels, is there ever any justification to take a defender again except when you just can't afford the colossal? I know I wouldn't. I'll take the battleship over the patrol boat, thanks.
So now having brought up some points, I want to know what others think. Do you think this is an accurate snapshot of what the stormwall might be like? Does that seem crazy powerful, or putting too many eggs in one basket? If it really does turn out to be like that, will it render a bunch of 'jacks totally obsolete except where point constraints are concerned?
A final point; Again, these obviously aren't accurate and I doubt this is exactly what the Stormwall will look like. But at this point I hope I've made the impression that even if some of this stuff is slightly worse, even if the stormwall is anywhere close to this, this colossal far and away outclasses anything you could possibly do with normal warjacks for the same cost range. But for the points it's far easier to remove than 20 points of heavy warjacks. Seem like a fair trade?