Earthborn, Mauler,Bomber, or Mulg.

[somesamurai]

Just curious to know which one of the 4 Heavies, are close to an auto-include for you? Starting list at 35pts.

[TheHydrogenator]

Earthborn, followed closely by the Bomber/Mulg

[zor]

Earthborn is definitely on the hot list, especially with Janissa.

[Compressed Air]

Mulg! But I play against a lot of Cryx and Menoth so I need his magical weapon. Plus, I just love reach. After that I'd go Bomber because I love the model. Earthborn would probably be 2nd but there's just something about his model that doesn't sit well with me. I can't put my finger on it, but he's pretty ugly (not in a Troll way, just in a bad way). Mauler would be last for me, but that doesn't at all mean he sucks. I LOVE the Mauler, he's one of my fav models and beasts ever!

Edit: I just figured it out! The Earthborn looks like that stupid Cave Troll from LOTR! UGH!

[Alex C]

Usually goes Bomber, then Mauler.

Might have something to do with the fact I don't yet own either Mulg or an Earthborn...

[Goris]

Generaly speaking the Earthborn hits my lists as a heavy choice nearly every time. Then Mulg or the bomber depending on the warlock and type of list. Personaly though, I NEVER like making lists without a heavy hitter unless it's eMadrak or Calandra who can substantially increase damage output...

[thumpernickle]

I would also recommend the Earthborn as the most versatile and useful single heavy. I use Mulg a lot, and the Bomber sees a lot of action as well. But the Earthborn has a lot of built in perks allowing it to work well with any of our warlocks.

[EvilFuzzyDoom]

All of them! Mulg smash!

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

I think the fact that the Mauler is almost universally the last of the 4 is a testament to how freaking amazing troll heavies are. The Mauler is FANTASTIC, but yeah, most of the time he won't hit the table. It's crazy.

[Goris]

I think the fact that the Mauler is almost universally the last of the 4 is a testament to how freaking amazing troll heavies are. The Mauler is FANTASTIC, but yeah, most of the time he won't hit the table. It's crazy.

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[PG_Captain Smash]

Depends on the caster IMO. A LOT of people in these forums are going to tell you EBDT over the mauler and then those same people will say Mulg is P+S 22 because he is always going to have rage on him. I love the mauler only beast I have 2 of besides impalers from the Battlebox. With our melee casters Borka and Madrak having that +3 str can really up their dmg output. If you are running Doomy then get Mulg, Gunny get the bomber otherwise I would go with the model you like the best at first and get them all eventually.

[EvilFuzzyDoom]

Mulg and the Bomber both have more specific roles and don't really compare to other heavies directly.

As for the EBDT/Mauler:

The Earthborn is a marginally-better beast on his own under most circumstances (usually will be getting bonus P+S off the enemy's weapon, as opposed to the Mauler needing to Force for it).
The Mauler contributes more offensively to the force as a whole.
The Earthborn contributes more defensively to the force as a whole.

[MadHatter5045]

Depends on the caster IMO. A LOT of people in these forums are going to tell you EBDT over the mauler and then those same people will say Mulg is P+S 22 because he is always going to have rage on him. I love the mauler only beast I have 2 of besides impalers from the Battlebox. With our melee casters Borka and Madrak having that +3 str can really up their dmg output. If you are running Doomy then get Mulg, Gunny get the bomber otherwise I would go with the model you like the best at first and get them all eventually.

QFT! Honestly any list I have an axer in I also seem to always have a mauler (P+S 17 thresher attacks with axer)

[Beckman]

I have no idea! Mulg? All of my heavies see a lot of table time.

[tallted]

I make it a point to take the mauler, just because he's so much fun. Smash and Grab is a blast, and makes for loads of fun. It either results in a headbutt or a two hand throw. =D Mulg is my personal favorite, mainly because his club can't be argued with. Earthborn is always great, but I don't field him too much, mainly because there is usually not a lot of rough terrain on the tables I play on. I almost never field m bomber, but have been thinking I need to get him on the table more often.

[PG_petegrrrr]

Earthborn, followed closely by bomber, then Mulg a distant third.

I rarely field the mauler. For 4 points less I just always seem to choose the pyre.

[PG_machine007]

Mainly Earthborn, then Mauler, then Bomber, and then Mulg. I only take Mulg with EMadrak and Doomshaper.

I love the Mauler and everything that he does, I plan on making him my main beast again for a while, especially since I will be trying out a bunch of waky and crazy combos.

Kinda surprised you didn't ask about the blitzer ;-D (Sarcasm).

[Goris]

I rarely field the mauler. For 4 points less I just always seem to choose the pyre.

I have always asserted this. Not only that, but the fire immunity is golden. I had a legion player accuse me recently of making a list to counter legion simply because I brought a pyre. This explains to you the impact he has just on a players mind set. I just told him I need a damage buff and it also happens to have other benefits.

[Ravir]

All of them, entirely dependent on the rest of the list. Want to make infantry wreck face? Mauler. Want a dire missile with minimal support? Earthborn. Need to clear out swarms of squishies? Bomber. Want to make the opponent hate you for all time? Mulg.

I honestly don't have a set preference, I use them all, and mix them all in different lists. An Earthborn with Rage grabbing a warcaster's POW 7 sword and beating them to pulp with it is just... satisfying.

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

Earthborn, followed closely by bomber, then Mulg a distant third.

Out of genuine curiosity, why a distant third for Mulg? I admit that I'm new to trolls, but not new playing against trolls, and I've seen what that big guy can do. I feel like he's pretty stupendous. I could see him being in 3rd, sure, but they're all so good. What is it you don't like about him?

[Goris]

There was a LONG discussion about this....multiple in fact. Read here if you want to tear your hair out...
http://privateerpressforums.com/show...-Mulg-Tag-team

[Beest]

Mauler actually sees the most table time with me.
then probably mulg, bomber/EBDT about the same. this is the 25-35 point range. at 50 it'd be more beasts

Nothing against the others but the mauler is a cheap fury battery as i tend to run infantry heavy and handing out +3 str to key models is sweet. then he and my caster tend to follow in the 3rd wave so threat range is not as needed.

Mulg see's action on occasion mainly with borka for lols. and generally when i have a handful of spare points.

Bomber always see's action in my ranged lists and the main reason for ebdt not seeing much table time is i tend to roll dreadfully with him. even missing khador heavies fairly often.

[PG_petegrrrr]

There was a LONG discussion about this....multiple in fact. Read here if you want to tear your hair out...
http://privateerpressforums.com/show...-Mulg-Tag-team

Listen, your arguments made no sense Goris, but I never wanted to tear my hair out....

Long and short of it is, IMHO Mulg is not a great way to spend 12 points in most lists. I'd rather spend 10 points on an Eartborn or a Bomber. I just think they are much better value for points, and lets leave it at that!

[Goris]

I wasn't attacking you with that statement. I am just tired of arguing over it. Furthermore, newer players might find it tedious that we all bicker over the issue so much. There is simply no empirical way to prove if Mulg is worth 12 points. Strike that, there is, but the logistical aspects of that are nearly impossible to do. So it's all hearsay. You opinion against whoever. I love Mulg and he makes a meaningful impact in nearly every game I play. Does he always get back his points? No. Does he always make us of all his abilities? No. Is he worth 12 points? Jury is out in my mind, but I didn't bring him to Lock n Load or Pax last year. I plan to this year and when I am certain I can give a report on performance against better players, I will solidify or change my opinion. For now however, Mulg rocks.... literally...

[Digestive]

In my experience the Bomber is most of an auto-include or has the least amount of 'stand-ins'. Outside of Grim Angus he and the Long Riders with Horthol are our only way to deal with hi-def infantry swarms. Perhaps the Storm Troll will change that.

[ConejitoD]

To me it's Earthobrn/Mauler/Bomber in that order but very close, depending mostly on what I want in a particular list then Blitzer/Mulg, in that order again and very close too, the main reason is my irrational love for the Blitzer, the fact that Mulgs arms falls again en again and he use to be unasanbled, and that actually I only really like him with Borka (I like him too with Madrak1, but is not my first choice, and with both doomshepers too, but I don't like to play neither form of doomsheper usually).

[ryanbo724]

I have been on a Mulg kick lately, but thats because I have been running a lot of pDoomy. I will say that the EBDT is probably my main heavy followed by the Bomber. I agree with what some have been saying about the Mauler and bringing a Pyre/Slag (I have an unhealthy love for the slag troll) but in the game I had last night the Mauler did Grab and Smash 2 times and was directly responsible for killing 3 Cryx heavies and throwing the Deathjack in to the the charge lane of the EBDT leading to its demise. I wouldn't have really been able to do that with any other heavy we have. Maybe I need to re-think my thoughts of my mauler at this point.....

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

There was a LONG discussion about this....multiple in fact. Read here if you want to tear your hair out...
http://privateerpressforums.com/show...-Mulg-Tag-team

Listen, your arguments made no sense Goris, but I never wanted to tear my hair out....

Long and short of it is, IMHO Mulg is not a great way to spend 12 points in most lists. I'd rather spend 10 points on an Eartborn or a Bomber. I just think they are much better value for points, and lets leave it at that!

Hoo, sorry to dig up old arguments, ha ha. Glad to know how everyone else feels about him, and now I'll quietly form my own opinion

[zman2596]

I would say earthborn. He was my first heavy and always does well. I recently bought a bomber as my second choice. Earthborn seems to do well in any list with any caster. You won't be disappointed with him.

[PG_LunarSol]

For me it really depends on the warlock and the rest of my army. Bomber and Earthborn are probably top 2 when I'm focused on a single heavy, but with certain Warlocks I'm really happy to run the Mauler and save the point. Generally though I'm always looking at some 15 point variation, whether is Mauler/Axer, Bomber/Impaler, or Earthborn/Pyre. If I take a second heavy, its almost always Mulg though, simply because at that point I've committed enough resources to beasts that I can easily get the most out of Mulg however I want to run him.

[Impostor]

Earthborn is golden. But that's not why i make this post. I am here to tell you a story.

Ever since i found out about Lola, i put it as my point of honor to put an Earthborn up Butcher's face. When i finally found a Khador player (sporting 3 devastators...) i knew i was in for a treat.
Long story short, i did it! I smashed the Butcher with 2 hits! It was one of these small moments when i see so clearly why i'm playing this game and trolls!

So, yea. Earthborn is almost constant addition to my lists.

[Impostor]

Earthborn is golden. But that's not why i make this post. I am here to tell you a story.

Ever since i found out about Lola, i put it as my point of honor to put an Earthborn up Butcher's face. When i finally found a Khador player (sporting 3 devastators...) i knew i was in for a treat.
Long story short, i did it! I smashed the Butcher with 2 hits! It was one of these small moments when i see so clearly why i'm playing this game and trolls!

So, yea. Earthborn is almost constant addition to my lists.

[PG_petegrrrr]

I've made a few skorne players stop fielding ferox, just do to my love of throwing them near their warlocks then stealing that sweet pow 12 off their bite attacks. add some flaming fists and that's a power 26 coming at you

[PG_LunarSol]

I've made a few skorne players stop fielding ferox, just do to my love of throwing them near their warlocks then stealing that sweet pow 12 off their bite attacks. add some flaming fists and that's a power 26 coming at you

I didn't think you could steal the POW off of Mount weapons, or are the Ferox worded differently? (no Skorne in my meta yet)

[PG_thegreatblah]

Statistically speaking since MKII

Earthborn - 52%
Bomber - 39%
Mauler - 14%
Mulg -12%
Blitzer 7%

[Beckman]

I didn't think you could steal the POW off of Mount weapons, or are the Ferox worded differently? (no Skorne in my meta yet)

Not any more, I believe. Worked in MKI. Looking it up now... I'll be back with a linky if I can find one...

Edit: Found one - linky

[nosrek]

I have been using the mauler exclusively lately, mainly because he is my only painted dire at this time.

Earthborn is my favorite though.

[PG_Celedor]

I just told him I need a damage buff and it also happens to have other benefits.

I reeally hope you muhaha-ed >

[PG_petegrrrr]

I didn't think you could steal the POW off of Mount weapons, or are the Ferox worded differently? (no Skorne in my meta yet)

Yeah, it doesn't work anymore, it's a story back from mark 1 and the fieldtest. I miss my movable battlecat buff

[sourclams]

I've made a few skorne players stop fielding ferox, just do to my love of throwing them near their warlocks then stealing that sweet pow 12 off their bite attacks. add some flaming fists and that's a power 26 coming at you

Once upon a time, Kovaas POW14.

Then, Earthborn, Zaal, 21 boxes per hit.

The end.