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    Cool Will Raptors ever get a UA?

    so far all units for us has some UA, except for Orguns. i wonder if raptors can ever be further improved. Maybe snapfire with UA?

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    They may someday get a UA, as might other Cavalry units. I highly doubt that we'd get this in the next book, but who knows (besides PP) at this point.

    Speculation-wise, Snap Fire might be a possibility, but any UA for Raptors would have to be balanced with the knowledge that Anyssa might also be in the list boosting the Raptors. I hope PP wants to avoid the escalation of rules that came with the later days of Mk1.
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    In before Striders with Grenade launchers as WA
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    Quote Originally Posted by FearMeMortals View Post
    In before Striders with Grenade launchers as WA
    Nyss Stormfall Archer Strider WA?
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    Winterguard Striders ftw.

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    Does Anny not really count as the Raptor UA? Apart from Trenchers, is there a unit that gets both a Unit Attachment AND a veteran leader?

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    anny is not a UA.

    Our fave unit, striders: they get a UA and veteran leader

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    No Cavalry unit has a UA, and all existing UA's explicitly disallow Cav's as an attachment (like Ranking Officers). For whatever reason, PP seems to be tepid about UA's for Cavs, likely they'll stay supported by solos. And no, they should never ever get snapfire. A 5 Man cav unit that already can deal with beasts and warjacks, and safly pick at units should not be able to fire ten lethal shots into a unit every turn as good as their RAT is.

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    Speed 9 Pathfinder models with 12inch shots, a 5 inch light cav move, decent MAT, elite RAT, 3 dice on living at range, Weapon Master in melee, decent defense, cavalry charge, light cav mount attacks at POW 12 for guaranteed 2 attacks per model, and a solo who gives them uber-elite MAT and obnoxious-elite RAT while being worth her points all on her own don't need to be further improved.

    Raptors contest for best cav in the game. If anyone should be asking for a (very unlikely) cav UA, it would be Soul Hunters, maybe Destors.

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    We could at least get a real dragoon



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    Quote Originally Posted by vengence88 View Post
    We could at least get a real dragoon

    He's called eThag, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karchev_the_Terrible View Post
    He's called eThag, lol
    He said "Dragoon," as in cavalry model that dismounts after you kill the mount (in this game at least).

    Although a Dragoon warlock would be hilariously troll-worthy.

    "You killed my warlock...'s first health bar, hey he dismounts outside of your melee range."

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    The sorcerous we have would be amazing as a dragoon. A warmonger dragoon would be fun. A mounted forsaken dragoon would be disgusting. I can't think of much else I'd want in that spot.
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    I really wish the Hellion was a true dragoon, she's great as is, but man I wish she could have another shot at keeping those spells going.

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    Yeah, so many times I've wanted one more spray out of her.

    Of course, being a legion model, she probably wouldn't take much to kill once she was on foot. Maybe a hard stare?
    Quote Originally Posted by sathoon View Post
    I'm starting to see proteus as the golden retriever/collie cross of the legion beast 'vean' family: he's very loyal if a little soft round the edges at times, likes to herd other dragonspawn, and is always dragging things back to his warlock's army line looking for praise.

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    I'm going to guess not any time soon, the raptors are really good by themselves, and amazing with Anyssa. I think making them able to be better still would cause more cries of "broken"
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaildin View Post
    Yeah, so many times I've wanted one more spray out of her.

    Of course, being a legion model, she probably wouldn't take much to kill once she was on foot. Maybe a hard stare?
    Non-sense, she'd gain +1 to Defense! That big Hellion keeps her from being as dodgy as she could be since all her efforts going into staying balanced on flapping wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearMeMortals
    In before Striders with Grenade launchers as WA
    Oh, I'm in before Gatling Scathers.

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    Will Raptors ever get a UA?
    Yes, and it will look like this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thenmy View Post
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    I will buy 10!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thenmy View Post
    Oh, I'm in before Gatling Scathers.

    On Topic:Yes, and it will look like this:
    I thought that was going to be the Skorne Colossal. =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thenmy View Post
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    Sadly, cannotcope is probably right, and that'll be the skorne colossal...

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    Hah... and the Circle players were so pleased when they got 15ft tall mega-beetles. Little did they know

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    Lolz what is that from?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SageofLodoss View Post
    Speed 9 Pathfinder models with 12inch shots, a 5 inch light cav move, decent MAT, elite RAT, 3 dice on living at range, Weapon Master in melee, decent defense, cavalry charge, light cav mount attacks at POW 12 for guaranteed 2 attacks per model, and a solo who gives them uber-elite MAT and obnoxious-elite RAT while being worth her points all on her own don't need to be further improved.

    Raptors contest for best cav in the game. If anyone should be asking for a (very unlikely) cav UA, it would be Soul Hunters, maybe Destors.
    Absolutely. Raptors are in the running for best cav in the game. There isn't a turn that goes by where those Raptors don't have something absolutely destructive that they're capable of.

    Let's worry about lobbying for units that actually /need/ a UA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteakAndSpirits View Post
    Let's worry about lobbying for units that actually /need/ a UA.

    -s&s
    Grots, Mongers or Warspears? Everything else has a UA or are Raptors, Spawning Vessels or Blackforest Shard.

    I posted a homebrew Spawning Vessel UA a while back that allowed non-nephilim lights to be spawned* (so Raek, Teraph, Naga). I'd still love to see that, even if the Spawning Vessel probably doesn't need it.

    *allowed more corpse tokens to be held at one time and required more tokens for the light warbeast to be spawned.

    Grots could use a UA with a higher CMD if just to be able to spread out a bit...
    The Mongers and Warspears have a solo, but could probably use basic UAs, like one that grants unyeilding, or brutal charge, relentless charge or something.
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    Overtake would be pretty amazing for warmongers. Stealth would be hilarious.
    Quote Originally Posted by sathoon View Post
    I'm starting to see proteus as the golden retriever/collie cross of the legion beast 'vean' family: he's very loyal if a little soft round the edges at times, likes to herd other dragonspawn, and is always dragging things back to his warlock's army line looking for praise.

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    Relentless charge on Warmongers would be amazing. Brutal charge would be pretty sweet too, to allow their anti-warjack charges to get really mean, but I think PP has things against POW 18 charges out of units. Grotesques could use some help, immunity to blast damage would go a long way, like a sorceress care taker similar to the Doom Reaver UA in theme that grants force barrier (Or perhaps has it as a spell).

    Of the things I want the most in the attachment department is a generic weapon attachment. I've been jealous of that idea ever since the soulless escort. Also, some weapon attachments in general would be sweet. 3 dudes that could whip scather like things out of slings to hang around the archers? A blighted sorcerer who ducks around the Legionnaires? A weapon master Strider? Lots of fun options.

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    How about a weapon attachment type thing for war monger that would be some sort of attack dog type thing. Give it the counter-charge/return thing like the khador war dog. But make it a giant blighted mastif type beastie that bites legs off instead of just nipping at ankles.
    Quote Originally Posted by sathoon View Post
    I'm starting to see proteus as the golden retriever/collie cross of the legion beast 'vean' family: he's very loyal if a little soft round the edges at times, likes to herd other dragonspawn, and is always dragging things back to his warlock's army line looking for praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaildin View Post
    How about a weapon attachment type thing for war monger that would be some sort of attack dog type thing. Give it the counter-charge/return thing like the khador war dog. But make it a giant blighted mastif type beastie that bites legs off instead of just nipping at ankles.
    This would be a shredder.

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