Cygnar Stormwall Colossal!

[RoninXiC]

NIce model. No question about that.

But.

Too expensive.

The "other company"'s big kits like the stompa or the baneblade are 35% cheaper, are bigger, at least equally detailed and come in a box packed with additional choices, weapons etc.

Out of my reach, out of my interest

There is a limit to what resin/pewter can be used to. These kits should've been cast in plastic.

[PG_petegrrrr]

You're probably right, I just don't think we should assume too much with how little information we have

It's not an assumption to look at something and know what it is

Besides, plastic is much sturdier, so I would have been downright shocked to not see at least some of the model in plastic. I like the PP plastic, it's good stuff. You can bounce my fennblades off the floor without anything snapping!

[Sergeant Bus]

It is so gorgeous. I am so excited to see what they have for Menoth

-Sergeant Bus

[Jestor]

I sincerely hope that the casting is better then my battle engines. The mold lines that are "unrecoverable" for 100 bucks was pretty ahrd to take. The Battle engines better be better for the price tag

[Xnath]

Wow thier prices are starting to make that other company's models look cheap.
If they see as much use as most battle engines, won't be worth the money, sadly.

[Jones]

/worship

rrrrrrr

[Medivich]

Price - For Resin a bit much... wheres our money going too... the developers bonus for thinking up such an eye popping piece!

Worth it... prob. not.(waiting for rules before forming an op.)

Thoughts... Kraye nuff said the SUPER HORSE with double movment.... wondering what the ride byes will be like hehe

[PG_aterdaeus]

135 dollars? Seriously? Why is it 50 dollars more than a Battle Engine?

While it may not seem taller, it is way way bulkier. And it comes with three "solos"

[PPS_Jen]

That's may not be correct. There is almost definitely plastic and pewter in this kit. Just look at ed's insider. http://privateerpress.com/community/...sider-3-7-2012
The legs and forearms are definitely different material than the resin bits, and look very much like PP's plastics.

Which is fine by me, as I like PP's plasic better than some of the resin anyway. Less fragile.

Not all resin is the same color.

[PPS_Will]

That's may not be correct. There is almost definitely plastic and pewter in this kit. Just look at ed's insider. http://privateerpress.com/community/...sider-3-7-2012
The legs and forearms are definitely different material than the resin bits, and look very much like PP's plastics.

The Stormwall is composed of resin and metal parts. The color variance is a result of the fact that we actually add the grey color to our resin. Since this is done by hand not every batch looks exactly the same.

The Stormwall does not contain plastic parts like those found in the plastic warjack kits.

[CorvidMP]

Battle engine $85 + 3 x single models $10ea = $115
Honestly not that that far off from what I would expect, nor is it that far off from any serious competition (ie titans).

[Defenstrator]

I find this thread a bit amusing. I see the awesome model, I see the price, I say alright. But I find the whole Warroom debacle of having to pay a huge amount for a simple list builder prohibitive. But some people who were going on about what a deal Warroom is are pulled up short at the thought of paying $135 for a model.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[Necra-Chi]

$135 for a mini-dragon is acceptable to me. *hint hint*

[AshenFang]

I figured the cannons were cannons since the blurb mentioned shooting cannonballs... but I still don't see a place for the pods to launch from. Thus why I thought the cannons might be pulling double-duty. But, as you have said that is not the case, could we possibly get an awesome PP-cares-about-its-customers picture of Stormwall with a simple circled area showing where they come from? Or perhaps a quick sketch of it with the pods pre-deployment?

If you look at the very top of it's.. hump I guess you could call it, there's a round metal thing there, which looks a lot like the tip of the little guys that's sticking into the ground. Picture them closed up, which the tip that impacts the ground as the part that comes out of the Colossal first.

[Epizeuxis]

... So with all battle engines that I know of already out for sale, except for Skorne - which has yet to even get a photo up on the site - they put up an entry for a colossal instead?

One day, Animantarax... One day we will finally be together ;_;


On topic, though, the Stormwall looks as impressive as in the reveal-video. Although if the colossi all have similar price tags, that will be a bit of a tough pill to swallow.

[PG_petegrrrr]

The Stormwall is composed of resin and metal parts. The color variance is a result of the fact that we actually add the grey color to our resin. Since this is done by hand not every batch looks exactly the same.

The Stormwall does not contain plastic parts like those found in the plastic warjack kits.

Ahh, fair enough! I'm a little sad though. I liked the idea of stormwall having indestructible plastic legs

[solkan]

The difference for the price difference:


vs.


As far as I can tell, that's the same green and yellow hobby board that both models are on.

[PG_ForsakenPoptart]

Battle engine $85 + 3 x single models $10ea = $115
Honestly not that that far off from what I would expect, nor is it that far off from any serious competition (ie titans).

Particularly when you consider how much bigger they are in comparison to the battle engines- seriously, folks, we who were at TempleCon got to see the Conquest up close, and he's a monster. Stormwall is no different- they're huge.

[MinionOfCthulhu]

I wonder if the price point uniquely reflects the three 'solos' it comes with or if the other colossals will come with more stuff to 'make up' for the lack of solo parts.

[Quizboy]

I can't wait to see the Kraken now. I know I'm easily capable of justifying the price tag to myself if it looks amazing

[Watchtower]

Looks so, so good!

[plastichero]

For those of us that buy from local retailers its kind of harsh.

How do we as gamers support our local gaming stores with a product at this price point when discounters on the web will be offering this at a 10-25% discount of the retail price? This is a very tough buy for me. As a gamer I support my local shop rather than buy online. But THIS is starting to push it for me. I love the models but I think I am going to have to reconsider whether I am going to pick this up. I am very loyal to the shop that I play at and want to buy from them. Yet, the price point is pushing me to discounters on the web. Not something that my local store likes in any way.


Awesome model, I love them. Price wise not so much

[Decade]

OH!
MY!
GOD!
That is so damn pretty, its almost a crime.

[studderingdave]

complaining about price is irrelevant. you either want it or you don't. it is a hobby.

[PG_aterdaeus]

I sincerely hope that the casting is better then my battle engines. The mold lines that are "unrecoverable" for 100 bucks was pretty ahrd to take. The Battle engines better be better for the price tag

This will be the only snag. As long as it has a better casting quality than the BE's the price is fine. However, I've put together several Battle Engines and ALL of them have had unforgivable mold lines. If pip can deal with that problem I have no issue paying $135.

[MadJack]

The price is higher than I had hoped, but pretty much exactly what I had expected. At that price, I'll buy 2, but I likely won't buy any of the colossals for the other factions (if the price was lower I was considering buying each faction's one).

[Yaum]

Yeah the 135$ price tag is prohibitive. Frankly, I don't understand it. I'm not going to flame, but in all honesty, I'd appreciate the reasonning behind this pricing.

Anyway, I don't buy a number of models, I buy according to a "minis budget". Buying a Stormwall just means I won't buy something else from PP.

[Bartman]

I was put off by the price when I first saw the update. But the more I look at it the more I like it. I'll be getting one from an online retailer and with the discount and free shipping I wont even blink when I pay for it...

regards, Bill

[PG_petegrrrr]

I had good luck with my Vessel of Judgement. Just some big fill nibs, and no bad mold lines, so hopefully it won't be too hard to do

[JacobtheAussie]

That price is on the top end of what I was expecting, but really it just means it will be an extra couple of weeks to put away the difference. And since we won't be seeing them start being released for a month or two.

[Jestor]

I had good luck with my Vessel of Judgement. Just some big fill nibs, and no bad mold lines, so hopefully it won't be too hard to do

Anyone who owns an AFG would like a word with you...

[PG_Cloud-Gatherer]

$135 means I probably won't buy two. Probably.

[Cronix]

The Lightning Pods actually launch from the top of the torso. The shoulder cannons are...well cannons

Nice, cannons and chainguns .

Are those lighting pods limited?

[PG_petegrrrr]

Anyone who owns an AFG would like a word with you...

Yeah, it was the first one they ever did, I'm sure it has more flaws on average than any other, but they seem to be getting better at it is my point

[jandrese]

My Vessel of Judgement had some pretty serious flaws--one of the spokes of the wheel was almost completely flowed out, one of the spires off to the side was missing (an apparent bubble lopped off about 1/4" of the tip), and I had to clean up mold lines all over the place. The top and the bottom didn't fit together very well either and required a lot of sanding to smooth out. The metal parts were exemplary however. I'm hoping that they're getting better at working with resin and the future kits won't be as problematic.

That said, if the Judicator is $135 it is going to need some crazy good rules to convince me to buy it. That is straight up expensive.

[Sergeant Bus]

On topic, though, the Stormwall looks as impressive as in the reveal-video. Although if the Colossals all have similar price tags, that will be a bit of a tough pill to swallow.

Fixed that

Colossus may or may not be Colossi in its plural form I have no idea but Colossal is just Colossals.

-Sergeant Bus

[Jestor]

Yeah, it was the first one they ever did, I'm sure it has more flaws on average than any other, but they seem to be getting better at it is my point

My War Wagon would also like a word with you The bottom was so miscast I almost had to scrap it and order a new piece through the parts replacement. I ended up having to cut off half a leg on one of the toughaloes and resculpt it.

[gaminguy]

$135 doesn't sound at all unreasonable when I pay $50ish for a heavy beast that is about 1/8 of the acutal volume of that monstrosity.

Seriously that thing is gorgeous and I envy you WM players immensely. Especially Cygnar, easily the prettiest of what we've seen so far.

[DoktorVivi]

My Battle Carriage was fine, honestly. One or two very easily removed mold lines (resin is so much easier to work with), that didn't go over any details. Small chunk of extra resin on the bottom that I had to chop off, and that's it. I was much more pleased with it than with the plastic kits.

[PG_petegrrrr]

Well, apparently I am just very lucky. But as long as I stay lucky with my resin models, you all can kick rocks

( )