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grimlock180
03-13-2014, 05:21 PM
with eVayle she can put refuge on archangel since refuge says "after its combat action ends to immediately move" if it does it's attack during a ride by attack does this mean if i say move 3" and then shoot(an hit) an then when that ends as due to it being its normal movement again, as the combat action part of the ride by attack being over would it be allowed to use refuge since refuge would proc when its the normal movement again for the archangel due to ride by attack?

Falkman
03-13-2014, 05:27 PM
Since the Archangel is a garganguan it cannot advance outside of its normal movement. Refuge will do nothing for it, regardless of it doing a ride-by attack or not.

grimlock180
03-13-2014, 05:32 PM
Since the Archangel is a garganguan it cannot advance outside of its normal movement. Refuge will do nothing for it, regardless of it doing a ride-by attack or not.
ride by attack allows u stop during ur normal movement and then RESUME ur normal movement after the combat action ends. an does say how normal movement effect that finish at end to proc so is considered normal movement. which is why i ask the question since refuge in ride by attack is PROCING when the archangel is resuming its normal movement cos of ride-by-attack as normal movement in ride-by-attack resumes after the combat action ends.

so archangel would be in normal movement when refuge activates in ride-by

Leonard_Dukes
03-13-2014, 05:54 PM
Close, but not quite. Since Refuge reads "immediately after its combat action ends" that means you need to do that before you're able to do other things that happen after the combat action. Ride by attacks do not stipulate "immediately," only "after it ends its combat action." So, substitute:

5) end combat action
5a) Refuge move triggers immediately after combat action
5b) Resume normal movement.
6) End movement, triggering effects.

Since the Refuge movement occurs after the combat action (taken during Ride By Attack) but before normal movement resumes, it is still considered to be advancing outside of normal movement.

So: No, the Archangel cannot benefit from Refuge even while using its Ride By Attack.

grimlock180
03-13-2014, 05:57 PM
Since the Refuge movement occurs after the combat action (taken during Ride By Attack) but before normal movement resumes, it is still considered to be advancing outside of normal movement.

So: No, the Archangel cannot benefit from Refuge even while using its Ride By Attack.
ty for that answer an quote with the breakdown. :)