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Knup
11-10-2014, 04:39 PM
How does Synergy effect free striking, on models who have yet to activate?

-The current Synergy number is at +4.

-Dark Sentinel triggers and Typhon moves back to Crit Pitch a WoldGuardian, whom triggered Dark Sentinel.

-Typhon is in melee with a Woldwatcher and Bradigus.

-When the Woldwatcher took its free strike it was currently at +4 with synergy and +2 with Free Strike, in which it hit.


Which leads to the question, when Bradigus takes his Free Strike swing, does the synergy number go to +5?

If the Guardian were not to get thrown and continues on with its attacks is it at +6, because Bradigus free strike also hit on top of the Woldwatcher?

As both the Woldwatcher who took the free strike, and Bradigus who took the free strike, have yet to activate, what is the bonus on their swings without the Guardian making any attacks as he was thrown far away?

Thanks in advance.

Deranith
11-10-2014, 05:00 PM
The easiest way to explain how to calculate the Synergy bonus is at the moment you make your attack, count the number of other models (not counting the one making the attack) that have hit an enemy model with a melee attack (including free strikes).


How does Synergy effect free striking, on models who have yet to activate?

Free Strikes allow models who have not yet activated to add to the Synergy bonus. They also allow Synergy bonuses to accrue on your opponent's turn if they take one from multiple battlegroup beasts/jacks (though they reset to 0 at the start of yours and your opponent's turn).


-The current Synergy number is at +4.

-Dark Sentinel triggers and Typhon moves back to Crit Pitch a WoldGuardian, whom triggered Dark Sentinel.

-Typhon is in melee with a Woldwatcher and Bradigus.

-When the Woldwatcher took its free strike it was currently at +4 with synergy and +2 with Free Strike, in which it hit.


Which leads to the question, when Bradigus takes his Free Strike swing, does the synergy number go to +5?

Yes.


If the Guardian were not to get thrown and continues on with its attacks is it at +6, because Bradigus free strike also hit on top of the Woldwatcher?

Yes.


As both the Woldwatcher who took the free strike, and Bradigus who took the free strike, have yet to activate, what is the bonus on their swings without the Guardian making any attacks as he was thrown far away?

If the bonus was +6 (including their free strikes) prior to the Wold Guardian getting thrown, they would each swing at +5 (because they don't add to their own Synergy bonus).

darkenn
11-11-2014, 03:41 AM
Synergi is turn, not round. Meaning, that if you have synergi upkeept, every free strike counts as synergi, but when its youre turn, you start at +0 again. Same regarding when youre turn ends. You go back to +0.

When a beast/jack in youre battlegroup hits a free strike, you get +1 on youre synergi chain. But if the same model hits two models with free strikes, you still gain +1, meaning that only the first attack counts as synergi.

In youre case, agains the first model youll get +4 +2 + youre MAT. on the second model youll gain +5+2+MAT.

Mod_Redphantasm
11-11-2014, 05:11 AM
Syngergy


Models in this modelʼs battlegroup in its control area gain a +1 cumulative bonus on melee attack and melee damage rolls for each other model in this modelʼs battlegroup in its control area that hit an enemy model with a melee attack this turn.

The Synergy bonus accrues each turn. So, your turn happens and 4 models attack, building a synergy bonus of +4. It moves over to your opponents turn and the bonus resets to +0. 2 models take free strikes and the bonus now kicks to +2. Turn moves back to you and the bonus resets to +0.

Models contribute to synergy as long as they hit a model with an attack (+1) per model. A model does not have to be in it's activation to contribute, but can only contribute once.

WoldGnome
11-11-2014, 07:19 AM
I think the point of his question is in relation to dark sentinel which allows an enemy model to move during your turn.

Lets assume you already have have +4/+4 synergy and neither brad or the watcher have activated yet.
Guardian triggers dark sentinel so your opponent tries to move Typhon using dark sentinel and he gets hit by a free strike from both the watcher and Brad.
Free strike is a melee attack during your turn so it should add to the stack and I cant see any reason the attacks are simultaneous ( Brad has reach and the watcher doesn't so one would trigger free strike before the other, you may have to work out which as this depends on positioning and typhons move).

Watcher gets a free free strike at +4(+2)/+4 and if he hits adds to synergy.
Brads free strike is now at +5(+2)/+5 and also adds to synergy. So your synergy stack is now at +6/+6.

The Guardian would benefit from this assuming he can still attack.

The tricky part is when you come to activate the watcher or bradigus. I believe they would benefit from the full stack at the time of their activation minus their own addition (lets say +5/+5). They alsowould NOT add any further bonuses to the stack as they have already added to it during that turn.

Edit: I realised its each 'other' model

Knup
11-11-2014, 07:29 AM
Thanks all, appreciate it!