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Uratoh
03-22-2011, 05:49 PM
Say an opponent shoots at a Dawnguard Sentinals unit with UA, granting them Vengeance. They kill a couple models, triggering it. A second round of fire or what have you kills the Officer, causing the unit to lose Vengeance. Do they still make their vengeance move at the start of my turn since it was triggered, or does losing the ability cancel the 'triggered' state of it?

hausdorff space
03-22-2011, 05:56 PM
Say an opponent shoots at a Dawnguard Sentinals unit with UA, granting them Vengeance. They kill a couple models, triggering it. A second round of fire or what have you kills the Officer, causing the unit to lose Vengeance. Do they still make their vengeance move at the start of my turn since it was triggered, or does losing the ability cancel the 'triggered' state of it?IIRC (don't have the wording handy), the trigger happens in the maintenance phase (and is triggered by effects prior to it).

In either case: no UA, no Vengeance.
it has been clarified somewhere many-a-time. ;)

Mastershake
03-22-2011, 06:05 PM
Vengence:


During your maintenance phase, if one or more models in a unit with Vengence were destroyed or removed from play by an enemy attack during your opponent's last turn, each model in the unit can advance 3" and make one normal melee attack.

Vengence doesn't trigger at all, at least not when the models die. A close reading will reveal it's an effect that doesn't check until your maintenance phase, so if a unit loses it prior to the effect checking, it won't go off.