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plastichero
06-01-2011, 05:54 AM
Hey all

Quick question regarding the Vigilant and it stopping blast damage on any model B2B with it. Does that include spells that have an AOE? If so, does that include spells such as Scrouge and Tempest?

Thanks for any answers. Cheers.

T.

Mod_Redphantasm
06-01-2011, 06:15 AM
If the spell is a normal AOE attack spell (such as Arcane Blast) or states that it does blast damage (such as Airburst) then models hit but not directly hit are suffering blast damage. This can be blocked by Girded.

If the spell text states that models hit suffer a POW X damage roll (such as breath of corruption), then that is not blast damage, and is not blocked by Girded.

plastichero
06-01-2011, 11:53 AM
Thank you for the response.

However, if for example a unit of Bastions in B2B with a Vigilant gets hit with Tempest. Do ALL the models get knocked down that are under the AOE? Or does the one model B2B with the Vigilant get knocked down?

Cheers.

Mod_Redphantasm
06-01-2011, 12:20 PM
Thank you for the response.

However, if for example a unit of Bastions in B2B with a Vigilant gets hit with Tempest. Do ALL the models get knocked down that are under the AOE? Or does the one model B2B with the Vigilant get knocked down?

Cheers.

Tempest is an AOE that applies an effect (knocked down) and a damage roll (POW 12) to all models hit (all models under the template). In your example, any model of that group that was under the AOE would take a POW 12 damage roll (since the damage is not blast damage it is not blocked by Girded) and be knocked down.

Ana Su
06-01-2011, 01:04 PM
Thank you for the response.

However, if for example a unit of Bastions in B2B with a Vigilant gets hit with Tempest. Do ALL the models get knocked down that are under the AOE? Or does the one model B2B with the Vigilant get knocked down?

Cheers.

See Redphantasm for above for an answer to this immediate question. Earlier you referred to Scourge. Scourge also has two effects, one is knockdown, the second is that the target model takes a POW13 while everyone else takes a POW7 blast damage roll.

Should the scourge hit the same group of Bastions + Vigilant, they are all knocked down and dont take the blast damage. The model hit still takes the POW13 (as that is not blast damage).

Mod_Redphantasm
06-01-2011, 01:16 PM
Ana Su is correct, nothing about Girded allows you to block effects (such as knockdown) that are not blast damage.