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Kommander_Stadts
08-01-2011, 11:54 PM
Signs and Portents vs. Roulette? Who's rule goes first?

Damoel
08-02-2011, 12:38 AM
nuked, I was wrong!

vintersbastard
08-02-2011, 01:01 AM
Active Player before Inactive Player. Haven't you read the Errata (http://privateerpress.com/files/WM%20MKII%20Rules%20Errata%20May%202011-final.pdf)? :)

Kommander_Stadts
08-02-2011, 09:47 AM
Yes i have read the errata i guess i just got confused since the way the errata read sounds like they are talking about multiple models not just a single model.

But that does clear it up thank you Vintersbastard and Damoel!

rydiafan
08-02-2011, 10:26 AM
It's also functionally irrelevant.

ShatteredFaith
08-02-2011, 10:55 AM
Doesnt S&P say drop the lowest, and Roulette say drop whatever you want? So you'd drop the lowest and then choose whatever ones you wanted, I would think.

rydiafan
08-02-2011, 11:23 AM
Doesnt S&P say drop the lowest, and Roulette say drop whatever you want? So you'd drop the lowest and then choose whatever ones you wanted, I would think.

If Roulette happened first you could choose to drop the lowest with Roulette, and then Signs and Portents would drop the second lowest. Zomg!

Of course, as I said, that's functionally identical to S&P dropping the lowest and then Roulette dropping the second lowest.

ShatteredFaith
08-02-2011, 11:31 AM
Most of the time, but iv had a few occasions where I let them keep the lowest with roulette in order to avoid a crit. Rare, but it happens.

rydiafan
08-02-2011, 11:34 AM
Most of the time, but iv had a few occasions where I let them keep the lowest with roulette in order to avoid a crit. Rare, but it happens.

But S&P would drop that die regardless. There is literally no situation where the Ahlynn player cannot get an identical result regardless of which happens first. The lowest die and two dice of her choice go away. If she chooses the lowest die, she is actually choosing the second lowest die, because that is where she is moving S&P to.

Kommander_Stadts
08-02-2011, 12:26 PM
I brought this up because I was concerned in a pVlad vs Ashlynn situation.