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gomu ningen
01-18-2012, 08:18 AM
The 2 abilities ignore spell effects adding to DEF and ARM, now the question is does it ignore a spell like Batten Down the Hatches where Carver's DEF is -2. Basically will they be trying to hit a DEF 15 or 13?

kratos
01-18-2012, 08:41 AM
The 2 abilities ignore spell effects adding to DEF and ARM, now the question is does it ignore a spell like Batten Down the Hatches where Carver's DEF is -2. Basically will they be trying to hit a DEF 15 or 13?

They will be hitting a 13, read the bold quote.

gomu ningen
01-18-2012, 08:47 AM
The only reason I would argue and maybe I'm just grasping but what about a model that ignores stealth, it cant ignore stealth models anymore for LOS because the longer have it to that model.... Isnt adding a negative the same as subtracting a positive.

gomu ningen
01-18-2012, 08:49 AM
Also I do believe that BDTH says models gain +3 armor and -2DEF. would gain mean add?

Maudlin
01-18-2012, 08:53 AM
Isnt adding a negative the same as subtracting a positive.

No.

10char...

gomu ningen
01-18-2012, 09:04 AM
Well that is kinda dumb an ability with no obvious draw backs.... tis the way it is though

Maudlin
01-18-2012, 10:04 AM
The rules forum, like the Champagne Room, is just filled with these little disappointments.